Driving uk registered car with no tax or mot back to uk
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Wow, really? thanks. Yet again, a presumptuous and judgemental reply. The car isn't mine so I haven't been driving it around without tax/mot. I am merely looking into options for transporting myself and goods back to the uk. There really is no need for people to take the moral highground and get all above themselves when I am merely asking for advice. If you want to ask more about my circumstances or whether I have been actually doing what you are accusing me of before jumping the gun then feel free...until then if you have nothing of any help to contribute then don't bother!
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I think you should make an appointment for an MOT in the UK. Then when you're driving from the port to the garage, you are going for an appointment. Not sure if your insurance will be valid though! Liz
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me please if it is possible to drive a UK registered car back to the UK when the tax and mot has expired? The tax expired last december. We are moving back and wish to use the car to transport our stuff. We will be getting the ferry in santander so won't be driving through france.
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Can anyone tell me please if it is possible to drive a UK registered car back to the UK when the tax and mot has expired? The tax expired last december. We are moving back and wish to use the car to transport our stuff. We will be getting the ferry in santander so won't be driving through france.
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MOT
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So if you have an accident there & cause damage to someone else think about it.
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UK cars are still illegal if ITV'd here.
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The vehicle cannot be taxed until it has its MOT, so you need to book the test in advance of travelling - make sure you have written confirmation of your MOT appointment from the garage concerned before you travel - and you will be fine. The appointment needs to be as soon as possible after you arrive in the UK.
Be aware that all UK car insurances are now on a national database. Individuals can check their own car and the police can check the insurance status of any vehicle. Ref: http://www.askmid.co.uk/
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This problem is really quite simple as I see it. As the car isn't yours, then presumabky it belongs to someone else. If its been in Spain for longer than 6 months, then it is illegal, as it should have been registered. So if you get stopped in Spain, there is a possibility that the car could be impounded ( and all your goods). If it hasn't been in Spain for longer than 6 months, then it is illegal for you (unless you are also non-resident) to drive the car, unless the owner us in the vehicle with you, and you could then be prosecuted. It is therefore likely that the insurance will be invalid.
Assuming you made it to UK, with no problems, or accidents, then providing you drive it directly to an appointment for an MOT, then this would be okay, but you could still be prosecuted for having no tax.
So the simple answer to the question is, its perfectly possible from a physical perspectuve, but more than likely illegal. Only you can make the decision, as to whether you want to take the risk. Personally, I wouldn't.
Assuming you made it to UK, with no problems, or accidents, then providing you drive it directly to an appointment for an MOT, then this would be okay, but you could still be prosecuted for having no tax.
So the simple answer to the question is, its perfectly possible from a physical perspectuve, but more than likely illegal. Only you can make the decision, as to whether you want to take the risk. Personally, I wouldn't.
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On a purely technical, non-judgemental, note I hve a vague notion that if your car has failed it's MoT and the current one has expired, you are only permitted to drive it directly to a prearranged MoT station. You can't have an expired MoT and book a (re)test for, say, next Wednesday and then drive the car around normally, until then.
Be aware that all UK car insurances are now on a national database. Individuals can check their own car and the police can check the insurance status of any vehicle. Ref: http://www.askmid.co.uk/
Be aware that all UK car insurances are now on a national database. Individuals can check their own car and the police can check the insurance status of any vehicle. Ref: http://www.askmid.co.uk/
..... and would Customs and Excise accept someone off a ferry with a car full of belongings is driving directly to a pre-arranged appointment and what about the onward journey to OPs home? OP would need to change V5 to her name before taxing the car.
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for the tax though if she is a additional driver on the owners insurance, or has third party cover to drive it then it can stay the same name.
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There must be a valid MOT and the name and address on the certificate of insurance must match that on the V5 or V5C to obtain a road fund license for the vehicle.
OP was not the first to ask. I guess a few will risk it and some will regret it.
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You can get around it with the green slip, fill it out in pencil and rub it out after.
There is a lot of assumption here today, for all we know the vehicle could be 9 months without a valid MOT but it might have just on her drive for 9 months so it would not be in any worse state than when it had a MOT. I guess it shows the ITV system maybe better with a 2 yr MOT ?
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Plus, you don't need to be the vehicle's owner to get it MoT'd, so long as you have the right paperwork. Though it's impossible without it.
I don't know if it's an offence to drive an untaxed vehicle. The offence might be attributable to the owner (though obv. there is a lot of hassle involved if the cops impound it, esp. if it has all your stuff in it). But it'll be massively inconvenient if you are told you can't continue after being pulled in by the fuzz.
I would dearly love to be a fly on the windscreen if this theoretical situation that we're all huffing ang puffing about came to pass:
Well madam, you say you're not the owner of this ve-HIC-le, it's not taxed and the MoT has run out. Have you got any insurance that covers you driving it? I think you'd better come dahn the station ... No, leave tje vehicle here ... Yes, I know it's a dodgy area and it's packed full of your belongings, but that's too bad. And while we#re talking about it, we'll take it to a weighbridge later to see if it's overloaded. Now, about that broken brake light and bald tyre ...
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Why not? If the OP had documentary proof that the appointment had been made (or even got the rozzers to phone the garage in question), then it would all be above board.
Plus, you don't need to be the vehicle's owner to get it MoT'd, so long as you have the right paperwork. Though it's impossible without it.
I don't know if it's an offence to drive an untaxed vehicle. The offence might be attributable to the owner (though obv. there is a lot of hassle involved if the cops impound it, esp. if it has all your stuff in it). But it'll be massively inconvenient if you are told you can't continue after being pulled in by the fuzz.
I would dearly love to be a fly on the windscreen if this theoretical situation that we're all huffing ang puffing about came to pass:
This could be a whole episode of Police! STOP on it's own
Plus, you don't need to be the vehicle's owner to get it MoT'd, so long as you have the right paperwork. Though it's impossible without it.
I don't know if it's an offence to drive an untaxed vehicle. The offence might be attributable to the owner (though obv. there is a lot of hassle involved if the cops impound it, esp. if it has all your stuff in it). But it'll be massively inconvenient if you are told you can't continue after being pulled in by the fuzz.
I would dearly love to be a fly on the windscreen if this theoretical situation that we're all huffing ang puffing about came to pass:
This could be a whole episode of Police! STOP on it's own
Anyone can take a car for a MOT, you do not need any paperwork for that.
A little tip aswell if you MOT your car a month before it is due you can get 13 months which may help some expat's
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Sorry Andy, It is an offence to drive an untaxed vehicle in the UK.
As many have found out when they find their car clamped at the roadside or even worse if stopped, the car driven off on a trailer.
You were lucky not to get caught in a police check.
As many have found out when they find their car clamped at the roadside or even worse if stopped, the car driven off on a trailer.
You were lucky not to get caught in a police check.
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I have this big yellow van, like bright sunshine, anyway I got a bit annoyed with a neighbour and thought why don't I park my nice big legal van right outside his house, walking the dog one night looked on the windscreen, big yellow ticket stuck to it, when I realised I thought you XXXX
What goes round comes around I guess, They done me a favour in reporting it as I would have prolly had it taken off the road at some point, we are friends now, but I don't think they know I know, why cant neighbours just be nice from the offset ? anyway I was mugged off for £72 backtax and £80 fine, but lile you say I was lucky as I was in and out of London at least twice a week in it, so lucky not to be pulled up by a traffic cop with ANPR but shows the cameras on the masts don't relay much info that is acted on quickly.