Driving Licence
May 3rd 2006, 10:31 am
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Beachcomber
I am reluctant to quote myself in order to prove a point but isn't that what I said several posts ago?
Anyway, until then Article 22 applies to all EU driving licences not just Spanish ones. That is the point of that particular article is it not?
El titular de un permiso de conducción expedido en uno de los Estados miembros de la Unión Europea que haya adquirido su residencia normal en España quedará sometido a las disposiciones españolas relativas a su periodo de vigencia y de control de sus aptitudes psicofísicas, que serán los mismos que se establecen en el artículo 16 para los permisos expedidos en España.
Seems quite unambiguous to me.
Anyway, until then Article 22 applies to all EU driving licences not just Spanish ones. That is the point of that particular article is it not?
El titular de un permiso de conducción expedido en uno de los Estados miembros de la Unión Europea que haya adquirido su residencia normal en España quedará sometido a las disposiciones españolas relativas a su periodo de vigencia y de control de sus aptitudes psicofísicas, que serán los mismos que se establecen en el artículo 16 para los permisos expedidos en España.
Seems quite unambiguous to me.
The idea of the euro licence is quote
"Currently, police across Europe can be presented with over 100 different licences in different languages, colours and formats. How can Czech policeman be expected to know what a valid Spanish or Irish driving licence looks like? The new licence will let police weed out the banned joyrider from the safe, licensed driver in an instant".
Spain is not helping if they expect everyone to change to a Spanish licence.
Last edited by jdr; May 3rd 2006 at 10:37 am.
May 3rd 2006, 10:35 am
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Beachcomber
I'm not so sure, lad. Anyway, I would rather not take the risk of having to spend the morning at Trafico or pay a lawyer 
just to prove I am in the right.
Anyway, I see that jdr has gone offline without responding to my last post so I will leave you to it!
just to prove I am in the right.Anyway, I see that jdr has gone offline without responding to my last post so I will leave you to it!
May 3rd 2006, 11:24 am
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Re: Driving Licence
We all know that Spain does exactly what it wants.
The proposal for the EU directive which can be found here contained the submission that rights of individual member states to impose their own periods of validity was to be abolished. However, this appears not to have been included in the actual directive which has to be purchased at a price of €40.
There is also some useful information here.
The proposal for the EU directive which can be found here contained the submission that rights of individual member states to impose their own periods of validity was to be abolished. However, this appears not to have been included in the actual directive which has to be purchased at a price of €40.
There is also some useful information here.
May 3rd 2006, 12:10 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Beachcomber
We all know that Spain does exactly what it wants.
The proposal for the EU directive which can be found here contained the submission that rights of individual member states to impose their own periods of validity was to be abolished. However, this appears not to have been included in the actual directive which has to be purchased at a price of €40.
There is also some useful information here.
The proposal for the EU directive which can be found here contained the submission that rights of individual member states to impose their own periods of validity was to be abolished. However, this appears not to have been included in the actual directive which has to be purchased at a price of €40.
There is also some useful information here.
May 3rd 2006, 12:28 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Good Luck! Perhaps best taken with a 
May 3rd 2006, 12:51 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Beachcomber
Good Luck! Perhaps best taken with a
May 3rd 2006, 3:59 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Hmmmmm......what to do, what to do......thanks guys, didn't mean to start a big thread, lol!!!
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
May 3rd 2006, 9:11 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Sparkle2nite
Hmmmmm......what to do, what to do......thanks guys, didn't mean to start a big thread, lol!!!
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
May 3rd 2006, 9:15 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
hmmm subtle hint jdr
May 3rd 2006, 10:40 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by jdr
I know people that have had problems with the paper one re the guardia, but none with the euro licence.
May 4th 2006, 6:31 am
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Sparkle2nite
Hmmmmm......what to do, what to do......thanks guys, didn't mean to start a big thread, lol!!!
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
Would prefer to get an EU card type, but not sure if I fancy a hassle with the Guardia, given that my Spanish is still poco poco!!! Don't fancy a trip to Trafico in Malaga either come to think of it, ho hum.
Sparkle
Alternatively carry a copy of a document that shows your Spanish address together with your name and is also endorsed (your documento de empadronamiento, for example, or bank receipt of your contribución) - you probably need this for other things anyway.
Spanish police are generally reasonable if you show willing, even though we know that the legislation defines this step as voluntary and not obligatory.
Once the new Euro licenses are up and running properly, one can then switch.
May 4th 2006, 8:11 am
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Re: Driving Licence
Originally Posted by Unexpat
If you have a UK photo ID license, then the easiest/fastest short-term fix would be to get the paper section of your license endorsed by the local police with your Spanish address.
Alternatively carry a copy of a document that shows your Spanish address together with your name and is also endorsed (your documento de empadronamiento, for example, or bank receipt of your contribución) - you probably need this for other things anyway.
Spanish police are generally reasonable if you show willing, even though we know that the legislation defines this step as voluntary and not obligatory.
Once the new Euro licenses are up and running properly, one can then switch.
Alternatively carry a copy of a document that shows your Spanish address together with your name and is also endorsed (your documento de empadronamiento, for example, or bank receipt of your contribución) - you probably need this for other things anyway.
Spanish police are generally reasonable if you show willing, even though we know that the legislation defines this step as voluntary and not obligatory.
Once the new Euro licenses are up and running properly, one can then switch.
May 4th 2006, 2:25 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
ohhh, i have a copy of that letter might be worth me printing it off and carrying that with me too.
May 4th 2006, 2:36 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
I think this is the one you are referring to in case anybody else wants to read it:
http://www.spainvia.com/drivelicenceletter.htm
http://www.spainvia.com/drivelicenceletter.htm
May 4th 2006, 2:43 pm
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Re: Driving Licence
A friend who did just that not only got a fine for the driving licence but they then subjected his car to a rigorous construction and use check and he ended up with five more fines for various defects.
So if you are going to run the risk of waving a tatty piece of paper under the nose of a Guardia Civil you had better be pretty certain that they are not going to find anything wrong with either your paperwork or your vehicle. You don't want to end up like this...
So if you are going to run the risk of waving a tatty piece of paper under the nose of a Guardia Civil you had better be pretty certain that they are not going to find anything wrong with either your paperwork or your vehicle. You don't want to end up like this...