Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 6833359)

If you retain your licence rather than giving it to the court as far as I am aware you can still drive on it outside of the UK, I was banned quite a while back now, but was in photocard times, I still hired cars and drove in Spain and I would do the same now, If I lost my licence in UK I wouldnt be able to do my job so I wouldnt hand it back to the court, I would keep it and use it in Spain, AFAIK you are only banned from the UK for driving and not anywhere in Europe, the same would be vice versa as Posh states.

I can speak from experience and not assumption. In the UK You are banned from driving only, not for holding a licence

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 6834968)

But you would then be illegal as your license is suspended by DVLA,very simple really,which ever way you look at it you are at the very least committing fraud and I thought we were discussing what you can do legally not what crimes we can get away with.

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 6835653)

Jail sentences now for driving without a valid licence.

Originally Posted by Same Difference (Post 6833545)

The information that you have posted relates to a foreign national in the UK, and therefore I think that you have misinterpreted it. I read that as saying that the ban on that person driving in the UK will not affect a ban in other countries.
If She had been banned in her own country I think it would be different.My take is that if you have your license taken away then you cannot use it abroad to drive.
Anyone else any thoughts?

Originally Posted by betris (Post 6836225)

having no licence is not the same crime as not having a valid licence.

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 6836271)

Explain to me WTF you mean.
If you don`t hold a valid licence to drive in the host country, then you don`t have a licence to drive in the country, simple as that.

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 6836361)

He's right. In Spain driving with no licence is a serious offence and can carry a prison sentence.

Having a licence that is no longer valid is a different offence - for example you don't go to prison because you failed to renew your licence on time.

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 6836271)

Explain to me WTF you mean.
If you don`t hold a valid licence to drive in the host country, then you don`t have a licence to drive in the country, simple as that.

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 6834185)

Personally Ill admit I dont have a big hang up on drink driving as some clearly do here, but I dont let much get to me I find im to busy to be bothered by what others do, however I do totally disagree with driving drunk which is totally out of order and should be punished but that is not the same IMO as general drinking and driving, some people drive better after a drink.

I was stopped not all that long ago in Arcos de la frontera, they had a festival there was about this time last year I think, IIRC I had 3 half lagers and a baileys, but I lied and said 2 cana's with a meal and that was it, it was a random check I think and was allowed to go on my way, im sure if I was falling all over the place it would have been different.

In my own mind even though I knew what alcohol limits are I decided to drive because I felt I was not drunk, others will clearly again disagree.

Originally Posted by ZoeOddJob (Post 6836903)

Next time you are in my area please let me know so that I can stay well away from the roads!

I have been in Chiclana watching England football matches and left the bar early due to the amout of people that were clearly drinking too many and would be getting into their cars and driving home.

If you drive and are over the limit and injure or kill yourself so be it, but when other people are involved it´s another story!

Straying from the OPs question but am feeling a little incensed!!!

Originally Posted by ZoeOddJob (Post 6836903)

Next time you are in my area please let me know so that I can stay well away from the roads!

I have been in Chiclana watching England football matches and left the bar early due to the amout of people that were clearly drinking too many and would be getting into their cars and driving home.

If you drive and are over the limit and injure or kill yourself so be it, but when other people are involved it´s another story!

Straying from the OPs question but am feeling a little incensed!!!

Originally Posted by coralsoft (Post 6843724)

Andy clearly wouldn't be driving if he were in the same state as you saw people in Chiclana, from what he was saying, so I don't think you'd need to be warned if he were on roads in your area.

Do you get as worked up over sober bad driving as you are over competent driving with alcohol in the driver's bloodstream? There's plenty of stupidly bad driving goes on from some people who may be sober - maybe they ought to be pilloried to the same extent.