Veleta

Don't know if the mods will allow this thread as I know they aren't keen on anything written in Spanish. Anyway, I'll give it a bash and see what happens.

I thought that perhaps if we have any doubts or questions about the Spanish language perhaps we could post them here.

I'm kicking off with this one to see if anyone can help me:

What is the difference between aun and aún? Can you tell me what each one means and perhaps use them in context in a few example sentences for me?

(My OH is Spanish and I have already asked him but he hasn't got a clue.)

jackytoo

If you just pop it into google you will get an explanation of almost anything.

Veleta

The same could be said of any question ever posted on this forum!!

I could also look it up in one of my grammar books.

However, I chose to post it here so that I could have a two-way conversation and ask about doubts/confusions that I may have.

Rotor

Same reaction from a Spaniard standing next to me!!

Veleta

Great, innit? You'd think that having a Spanish OH would mean that I could use him as a point of reference for all things Spanish related, but no, not at all.

jackytoo

That is why everyone cannot teach their own language even though they know it prefectly

Here is a good explanation

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0183443AAC6jqu

icharus

Yuo'd be better of on Google than with these clown's

twistedmelon

I think it is an either either thing.
The difference in everyday language is to subtle to make a difference.
If you said both together it would turn out as 'even still'.
Just like english there are words that grammatically make no sense in every day life.
Hope that helps.

Fred James

There's nothing wrong with what you are posting.

Rule 16 is quite clear - you cannot have *discussions* in a foreign language.

Questions about the Spanish language are perfectly acceptable.

Mitzyboy

Well if that is the way you feel I respectfully suggest you go and post on another forum where, clearly, they aren't as stupid as we are!

Veleta

Thx. The messages on that site are a bit confusing to say the least, but I think the useful bit (despite the author coming back and editing her answer twice!) was:

Please note the difference between "aun" and "aún".
Aun is a connector (although)

EDIT: aun means "even", not although.
Aún is a time adverb. (yet): Aún no he terminado

EDIT 2:
Aún: yet or still
Aun: even

So, let's see if I can use it correctly......can anyone confirm???

No he ido a Londres aún.
Aún no he ido a Londres.
Aún no has visto Avatar.
Aún no he hecho mis deberes.

No he hecho mis deberes, aun sabiendo que me van a castigar.
Fui a ver Avatar, aun sabiendo que no me gustaría.

...I'd like to think of some more sentences with "aun" but not with "sabiendo" but I'm lacking inspriation. Anyone?

icharus

Whee would be the fun in that !

Mitzyboy

See my pm!

jackytoo

Fui a ver Avatar, aun sabiendo que no me gustaría.

That doesn't sound right, I would have used "aunque" although I don't know why

jdr

Certainly be better off without you.