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airways Feb 24th 2022 2:41 am

Digital Signatre - Clave
 
How do I get a digital signature, the Clave thing? I have installed the app on my laptop, but whats next?

Fred James Feb 24th 2022 3:04 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
https://clave.gob.es/clave_Home/regi...gistrarme.html

Ronnyone Feb 24th 2022 6:29 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
A quick read suggests that you register with your NIE and then wait until you receive by post your letter with the CLAVE which is a long number. You need a spanish phone number for the final part and email and the CLAVE. That appears to be it. Not sure how long it lasts for though.

DLC Feb 24th 2022 6:41 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
Probably better to get a certificado digital which lasts four-five years.

Cómo sacarse el certificado digital

How to Get a Digital Certificate in Spain

Fred James Feb 24th 2022 8:13 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
I’m not sure of this but if you have a cl@ve or a digital certificate it’s rasy to get the other one.

airways Feb 24th 2022 10:10 pm

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
When I try I just get a message that say "Access to this DNI-ID is restricted"..

SanNico Feb 24th 2022 11:53 pm

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
When in doubt, get the cash out. I used an agency to get mine. I paid 200 to register as autonomo, get on the Padron, get the cl@ve and do all the associated paperwork.

Ronnyone Feb 25th 2022 1:55 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 

Originally Posted by airways (Post 13097499)
When I try I just get a message that say "Access to this DNI-ID is restricted"..

Well you wont have a DNI unless you are Spanish. I think it says though that if the NIE doesn't function you should try your passport. If that doesn't work I imagine you will have to go to INSS or ayuntamiento to verify you. Most people get their lawyers to get the DS for them it's easier.

Fred James Feb 25th 2022 2:12 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
The procedure for the digital certificate is very simple. Your local town hall will do the authentication.

Ronnyone Feb 25th 2022 3:23 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
If you use the Clave as opposed to DC they will possibly identify you through your tax number as well as NIE. If you haven't made a tax declaration it might not detect you and therefore you might not be able to register intially online. Good way of them keeping an eye on anyone.

airways Feb 25th 2022 4:38 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 

Originally Posted by Ronnyone (Post 13097610)
If you use the Clave as opposed to DC they will possibly identify you through your tax number as well as NIE. If you haven't made a tax declaration it might not detect you and therefore you might not be able to register intially online. Good way of them keeping an eye on anyone.

So what happens to people who are not tax payers?

teuchterpete Feb 25th 2022 7:08 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
My wife and I went down to the town hall. They made us an appointment with a girl in another building and advised us to take a memory stick, this so that we could use the signatures on any machine. ( If you put the signature directly onto a, laptop/mobile etc. it will only work on that machine) We went there and she did the whole thing for us totall free of charge! We have used it to download a covid certificfate and it works fine. She said it would last three years.
Pete

Fred James Feb 25th 2022 8:49 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 

Originally Posted by airways (Post 13097626)
So what happens to people who are not tax payers?

Your NIE is your tax number.

Fred James Feb 25th 2022 8:51 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 
Not true. It can be copied onto another PC. Or your tablet/phone.

Ronnyone Feb 25th 2022 8:53 am

Re: Digital Signatre - Clave
 

Originally Posted by airways (Post 13097626)
So what happens to people who are not tax payers?

Every resident should make a tax declaration even if you believe you arent liable for tax. If you are registered as a resident you will eventually ( 2017 registrations will be next year) receive the dreaded carta negra!!


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