Diet in Spain

Old Feb 14th 2011, 7:25 am
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The comment I made earlier re chiropodists referred to the fact that diabetes, as Lynn pointed out, causes severe problems with the feet and the eyes.

Hence my comment that a large number of diabetics are spotted by chiropodists (and opticians.)

Now why would anyone simply say 'Don't think so' without asking why the frig you actually said it?
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Originally Posted by bil
The comment I made earlier re chiropodists referred to the fact that diabetes, as Lynn pointed out, causes severe problems with the feet and the eyes.

Hence my comment that a large number of diabetics are spotted by chiropodists (and opticians.)

Now why would anyone simply say 'Don't think so' without asking why the frig you actually said it?
I have heard that a lot of cases are spotted by optitions and chiripodists, they are on the lookout for tell tale signs.
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Originally Posted by JLFS
I have heard that a lot of cases are spotted by optitions and chiripodists, they are on the lookout for tell tale signs.
So why would some idiot just say 'I don't think so'?

Wouldn't you at least ask why someone posted that?
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I completely agree with you, Bil, and with JLFS. It is pretty scary that a condition with such potentially serious implications can often go undiagnosed for years as many people don't experience any noticeable symptoms, so they don't consult their doctor, and it only gets spotted during routine appointments with an optician or chiropodist.
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
I completely agree with you, Bil, and with JLFS. It is pretty scary that a condition with such potentially serious implications can often go undiagnosed for years as many people don't experience any noticeable symptoms, so they don't consult their doctor, and it only gets spotted during routine appointments with an optician or chiropodist.
Thanks for that. As you say, it's an insidious condition that creeps up on you slowly, and a lot of damage can be done before it is detected.
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Originally Posted by bil
The comment I made earlier re chiropodists referred to the fact that diabetes, as Lynn pointed out, causes severe problems with the feet and the eyes.

Hence my comment that a large number of diabetics are spotted by chiropodists (and opticians.)

Now why would anyone simply say 'Don't think so' without asking why the frig you actually said it?
You didn't say "large number" you said "most diabetics", and very reluctantly, I agree with him there, I doubt that is the case. I would imagine more are picked up by blood tests, by GP's, than by chiropodists.
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Old Feb 14th 2011, 10:19 pm
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Originally Posted by agoreira
You didn't say "large number" you said "most diabetics", and very reluctantly, I agree with him there, I doubt that is the case. I would imagine more are picked up by blood tests, by GP's, than by chiropodists.
I said 'They do say' which is a way of saying 'don't place absolute faith in this statement'. aka exaggeration for conversational impact. An awful lot of diabetics have no idea that's what wrong with them until a chriopodist or optician spots it, and I was trying to underline the point.

I don't mind someone querying a statement as that can lead to debate, discussion and the transmission of data. I just don't like the unthinking type of response expressed as blind, unthinking negation. Some people seem to do it a lot.
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Originally Posted by bil
I said 'They do say' which is a way of saying 'don't place absolute faith in this statement'. aka exaggeration for conversational impact. An awful lot of diabetics have no idea that's what wrong with them until a chriopodist or optician spots it, and I was trying to underline the point.

I don't mind someone querying a statement as that can lead to debate, discussion and the transmission of data. I just don't like the unthinking type of response expressed as blind, unthinking negation. Some people seem to do it a lot.
I agree, but the only thing I can see that he can possibly be querying is the "most" bit, I doubt most diabetics have ever seen a chiropodist. I suffered an industrial accident with both eyes, and was having regular eye inspections, and one day the optician asked me did I suffer from high blood pressure, I said no. I think you are, get along and see your GP. And of course, she was spot on.
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There is nothing like a good healthy diet.......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...-for-ten-years

And this is nothing like a good healthy diet.
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Originally Posted by JLFS
There is nothing like a good healthy diet.......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...-for-ten-years

And this is nothing like a good healthy diet.
I read the article and checked the date, but April’s still a while away. So it must be a bit of spam from Walker’s crisps, surely?

If it’s true, no wonder a crisp diet makes your gums bleed.

I did read a true story once about a man who ate nothing but carrots for years. He didn’t live all that long. He turned an orange colour, just like that former Labour MP/chat show host with a house in Marbella.
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I read the article and checked the date, but April’s still a while away. So it must be a bit of spam from Walker’s crisps, surely?

If it’s true, no wonder a crisp diet makes your gums bleed.

I did read a true story once about a man who ate nothing but carrots for years. He didn’t live all that long. He turned an orange colour, just like that former Labour MP/chat show host with a house in Marbella.
I have heard a story about a couple that got married and the bride only ever ate beans a la toast.
I think that is what they all had a the reception, if I remember rightly.
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I agree, but the only thing I can see that he can possibly be querying is the "most" bit, I doubt most diabetics have ever seen a chiropodist. I suffered an industrial accident with both eyes, and was having regular eye inspections, and one day the optician asked me did I suffer from high blood pressure, I said no. I think you are, get along and see your GP. And of course, she was spot on.
It's not a query, it's a stupid negation by someone who seldom bothers to read what's actually there.

Your response is more adult and actually queries content. It was a throwaway line which wasn't meant to be taken as a hard factual statement, merely a pointer to an interesting item to wit, chiropodists (and opticians) are more likely to spot diabetes.

As for the crisp diet and the bleeding gums, how horrific is that? If you don't take that symptom very seriously, you could well ending up being called 'Gummy'.
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I did read a true story once about a man who ate nothing but carrots for years. He didn’t live all that long. He turned an orange colour, just like that former Labour MP/chat show host with a house in Marbella.
I'm pretty sure that eating tons of carrots isn't actually bad for you, because the vitamin content is in the form of carotene, I think, which is basically vitamin A with a chemical group tacked on the end to inactivate it. When the body needs Vit A, it secretes a chemical that snaps off the deactivator.

The HUGE danger is when people start taking industrial doses of raw, activated Vit A. Vitamins are potentially very dangerous. Even a comparatively slight overdose can, in the long run do more damage that a deficiency would. Since most people who eat a normal, average Western diet are receiving more vitamins than they need, taking vitamin supplements is unnecessary and potentially bad for you.

Taking high doses is madness, and I'm pretty sure that in the reports of the cases of 'carrot poisoning' I've read, the deceased had also been taking ridiculous amounts of active Vit A, and that had been identified as the cause of death.
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It's not a query, it's a stupid negation by someone who seldom bothers to read what's actually there.

Your response is more adult and actually queries content. It was a throwaway line which wasn't meant to be taken as a hard factual statement, merely a pointer to an interesting item to wit, chiropodists (and opticians) are more likely to spot diabetes.

As for the crisp diet and the bleeding gums, how horrific is that? If you don't take that symptom very seriously, you could well ending up being called 'Gummy'.
There will always be fad diets in both countries, I have heard a group of Spanish girls talking about trying a "great diet".

Just eat one type of food every day, as much as you want, but only 1 thing a day.

You can have a chips day,
a chocolate day
Steak day.
cheese day.

There were all rearing to go and we just working out what the would all start with the following day.

CRANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by JLFS
I have heard a story about a couple that got married and the bride only ever ate beans a la toast.
I think that is what they all had a the reception, if I remember rightly.
My brother is nearly as bad as that - he had fish and chips for his meal at his wedding reception 2 years ago! But at least the rest of us got to eat proper food.

His diet is awful, and given our family history I really fear for his future health. He's anything but overweight, and fit (he does a lot of climbing, hill-walking and cycling) but I wish he would cut out the junk food. However, he has never eaten fruit or vegetables in his life and has no intention of starting now. Luckily his wife is completely different and she has brought up their son to eat and enjoy practically everything.
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