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Old Feb 8th 2012, 10:05 pm
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English Football, English Cricket or English Rugby? Or maybe Spanish cycling...
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Or all of the above
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Still not sure whether he meant it as a joke, or it was a genuine ColemanBalls, but a TV commentator said of the African Nations Cup "Well, it seems likely that an African team will win this, or maybe Spain..."
It doesn't really matter who takes over the England football team, they don't have the players to win it. There are at least 5 teams who are totally superior to us (Germany, Spain, Holland, France, Italy). How many English players would walk into the Spain or France side? Rooney and Cole, perhaps. I feel sorry for Harry - he can hardly turn down his best chance of ever being manager of England, but as soon as they perform badly, he'll be made the scapegoat. He's full of optimism though. He'a alleged to have said "Euros? No problem! - so long as they are unmarked and unused..."
Hard to feel enthusiasm for the rugby side - for as long as I can remember they've played the most boring rugby - they almost kill the game. It's got to the stage where I prefer to see Wales or Ireland do well
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I think Harry would be very ill-advised to do the poisoned chalice England job.

I agree about the England Rugby side - not since the early '80s have we seen anything other than the odd flash of flair. I'm hoping for more from this side but give it time.

At least England won a cricket match the other day.
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
. There are at least 5 teams who are totally superior to us (Germany, Spain, Holland, France, Italy).
I doubt FIFA know as much about football as you, but they beg to differ, rating England 5th in the world rankings, with Italy 9th and France, 15th!
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Originally Posted by jimenato
I think Harry would be very ill-advised to do the poisoned chalice England job.

I agree about the England Rugby side - not since the early '80s have we seen anything other than the odd flash of flair. I'm hoping for more from this side but give it time.

At least England won a cricket match the other day.
After their performance against Italy this afternoon I'm tempted to agree with you ! Italian rugby has improved enormously but all the same....
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Originally Posted by HADENOUGHPIZZA
After their performance against Italy this afternoon I'm tempted to agree with you ! Italian rugby has improved enormously but all the same....
Yes - disappointing wasn't it? An Irish friend of mine came into the bar last night gloating about England being crap and I could hardly disagree with him. I get the feeling though that this team could actually carry on being crap and come away with something.

I suspect we have played the two weakest teams in the tournament - things will have to change now...
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Originally Posted by agoreira
I doubt FIFA know as much about football as you, but they beg to differ, rating England 5th in the world rankings, with Italy 9th and France, 15th!
No doubt you thought we'd shine against Algeria and the US in the last tournament...

But we'll see if we come up against France or Italy - in fact don't we play France in the initial group? By your ratings argument we should storm the group. I fear we'll be lucky to come 2nd. But let's see. We need to play well for once in a major tournament, but I fear it's beyond our players. I'll be very glad to be proven wrong.
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
Still not sure whether he meant it as a joke, or it was a genuine ColemanBalls, but a TV commentator said of the African Nations Cup "Well, it seems likely that an African team will win this, or maybe Spain..."
It doesn't really matter who takes over the England football team, they don't have the players to win it. There are at least 5 teams who are totally superior to us (Germany, Spain, Holland, France, Italy). How many English players would walk into the Spain or France side? Rooney and Cole, perhaps. I feel sorry for Harry - he can hardly turn down his best chance of ever being manager of England, but as soon as they perform badly, he'll be made the scapegoat. He's full of optimism though. He'a alleged to have said "Euros? No problem! - so long as they are unmarked and unused..."
Hard to feel enthusiasm for the rugby side - for as long as I can remember they've played the most boring rugby - they almost kill the game. It's got to the stage where I prefer to see Wales or Ireland do well
its a bad workman that blames his tools
and the Committee of the FA are renowned for their blaming everyone else except themselves.
They appoint the manager so they should be the ones who fall on their swords when he doesnt do what they want.

and as to other posts, must agree, whoever takes on the job has serious problem as there just isnt the pool of eager players out there. Or is there, after all its always the same old tired faces game after game. Perhaps a really radical change and bring in some of the unknowns will change the way ahead ? ?
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