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I gave up watching CSI some years ago it was getting too far fetched but D oD have just payed Rayethon a fortune to develop a programme that they don't have a use for and it appears that Rayethon can now sell it on.

The NSA working at Fylingdale working with GCHQ at Cheltenham listen to millions of telephone calls read millions of texts and emails every day. No human involvement but if I were to include the words ETA, BOMB, GLOCK, 9 mm rounds in this post it may well get flagged up to a higher level of interest. Of course they know I am a little retired bloke living in sleepy Ayamonte who just happens to travel a lot between UK Spain many times by plane and once a year by boat via RoI. I let you know if they get in touch!

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Yep John like you say intelligence services can monitor many things if they want or need to. To get surveilance authority however for law enforcement is not so easy you need to convince some authority that it is required, which brings us back to the reasonable suspicion.,
Like you I am back and forth and I doubt my 17 euro monthly standing charge will raise much suspicion unless maybe they think I have by passed the meter lol

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are you suggesting that BE Spain is being used to pass secret messages ??

even the scenarios of NCIS are somewhat far fetched - being able to monitor cameras on closed circuit loops without any external connection !
- being able to access telephone records instantly
- instant hacking of IP's
its all for the sake of continuity in a process that would normally take a day or so at very least, even if they had a judge sitting there waiting for the call.

but do like these big screens that you can swipe things in and out on (NCIS LA) and the technology is there, just could I ever be able to afford it.?

In real life business it is hard to get people to give up driving for 3 hours to attend a meeting when they could all use video conferencing. but then that isnt the same is it.

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We had video conferencing in the last organisation I worked in - like any other technology it was fine when it worked correctly, but there were many times it was more like attending a seance than a meeting (you know, "is there anybody there?":rofl:) as you could get the sound working but not be able to see anybody, or vice versa. If there were a number of people taking part at either end, it was a nightmare trying to pass the microphone along the table so the person speaking at any given moment could be heard, otherwise you could see their mouth moving but only hear the person nearest the microphone shuffling their papers or coughing.

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Technology great when it works like a chocolate fireguard when it doesn,t.

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Dom you have seen through the cunning plan. All the talk of booming Britain and Spain is code for CPt we have hit another iceberg and are all doomed.

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that is quite obviously "implementation on a budget" Lynn, but I am sure you know that. go to almost any UK council chamber, in fact most in Spain as well, and each person has their own microphone for the sound system. with IP telephony using VOIP and POE technology there is really no excuse.
the more it gets used the easier it becomes to set up and run properly, so long as the networks are capable of accepting the increased bandwidth.
any organisation, including "hard-up" local authorities, should be able to see the cost savings of a manager or staff remaining at their desk, or in the building, to attend meetings. No meeting can be deemed cost effective to have people out of contact for a day, the stress of driving as well as the cost for fuel.
I used to go to regular meetings at a charity (only 3 buildings up the road so walked) and they did a very good bacon butty breakfast.

I had to set up a portable system for directors and project teams and it became a doddle - to the point where the boardroom we were able to put the incoming video onto the 70inch backdrop screen (via projector) and it was found with more lifelike sizing they were felt to be in the room.

I know my pc system isnt "at the forefront of technology" (whatever that really means) but I have VOIP, POE in the house using the sometimes mailigned Skype technology. Also have a UK number on the network so I can have non-skype family call me on the phone without incurring excessive charges.

some years ago I was involved in an early "smart electricity meter" project, nowadays they can call up your house and read the meter without sending a man out, but then think of all those redundancies and unemployment benefits would have to be funded.
with the level of internet access in many houses, although lower in Spain rapidly increasing, it wouldn't take much to pulse in/out a meter reading.

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They are already installing that type of electricity meter in Spain (certainly in my area, mine was changed for a "smart meter" on 28 December). The letter sent to householders about the change confirms that the new meters are capable of being read remotely in the future, but for the time being the meter will continue to be read every other month (how long for the time being may be is anybody's guess!).

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Mind guess who is main player in smart meter fitting in UK? G4S!

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Never!!!:sneaky:

My new meter is certainly smart as far as Endesa is concerned - for the first month since it was fitted it says I used 25% more electricity than for the same month last year, which I find difficult to believe (to say the least) since the only change to our consumption has been that we bought an electric duvet shortly before it was installed. We may have used a bit more as a result, but 25%???

I don't fancy challenging them on it, though, as I fear they may say it was the old meter that was faulty and hit me with a big bill. It seems too much of a coincidence though that the only other people I know who have had these new meters fitted say that their recorded consumption has gone up considerably too. Cynical, moi?

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They are about 18 months ago I did pre retirement course they were trying to recruit meter readers and people to be trained for fitting the smart meters. They also went to great lengths to tell us how they had Olympic contract! Say no more

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remember we believed all the blurb about saving money if having a water meter, after all 2 adults out at work all day, only the dog in the house to flush the toilet surely we would make a saving!
No Way - our metered bill put us about 15% up
We had already added water bottles to the toilets to reduce the amount of flush!
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That's the thing Dom with both utility providers and politicians, if their lipss move they are probably telling lies.

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but if they take you to court then that court and the credit rating agencies will take their word before yours, as you would be lying wouldn't you

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Well, look what never happened when we all switched to the Euro. 25% inflation would've been a godsend. Good job inflation never happened when the Euro was adopted.

I reckon it's the same with your meter. Never happened.