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rafikiphoto Jun 18th 2012 1:12 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 10125445)
Only if the estate is over 325,000 GBP.

And double that if the assets first passed from one deceased spouse to the other.

Fred James Jun 18th 2012 1:45 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10124986)
One thing Brits. can very rarely avoid is having their children pay Inheritance Tax to HMRC. If you are British and your Father was also British then the chances are that your Estate is 'captured' for ever and a day by the swingeing 40% tax bill. However there are several methods of legitimately avoiding or mitigating this tax !

You are referring to domicile here.

Yes, it can be very difficult to lose your English domicile but it isn't impossible. In my own personal case I am pretty confident that I could claim to have changed domicile but even then, as Chiclanagirl and Rafiki have pointed out, the starting point for UK IHT is very high compared to Spain and anyway, you can deduct any Spanish IHT paid from the UK IHT.

I just hope your post is not going to turn into an advert for "several methods of legitimately avoiding or mitigating this tax".

Domino Jun 18th 2012 3:02 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10124986)
One thing Brits. can very rarely avoid is having their children pay Inheritance Tax to HMRC. If you are British and your Father was also British then the chances are that your Estate is 'captured' for ever and a day by the swingeing 40% tax bill. However there are several methods of legitimately avoiding or mitigating this tax !

well I never paid a penny on my inheritance from my father, so I must have been reading the right things that day.

KevinF Jun 18th 2012 5:29 am

Re: Declaring income
 
My goodness ! I can see that tax is a real issue and of course it always is.
But what so very many Brit. expats. overlook is the question of IHT.
At a swingeing 40% on everything over £650,000 ( for a married couple who have left their estates to each other ) this is the "big" one !

The number of adult children who have been utterly dismayed that their Ma & Pa had overlooked planning for this eventual tax is legion !

Comments welcome....

I cant recall how to add a signature but I have added my co-ords as an attachment.

Bestest, Kevin J

KevinF Jun 18th 2012 5:31 am

Re: Declaring income
 
FAO Fred James !

My goodness you have obviously been reading "me" somewhere else online !

Chiclanagir Jun 18th 2012 5:39 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10125850)
My goodness ! I can see that tax is a real issue and of course it always is.
But what so very many Brit. expats. overlook is the question of IHT.
At a swingeing 40% on everything over £650,000 ( for a married couple who have left their estates to each other ) this is the "big" one !

The number of adult children who have been utterly dismayed that their Ma & Pa had overlooked planning for this eventual tax is legion !

Comments welcome....

I cant recall how to add a signature but I have added my co-ords as an attachment.

Bestest, Kevin J

If I had an estate worth 650k inheritance tax wouldn´t be worrying me. I would be out spending it.

JLFS Jun 18th 2012 5:53 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10125850)
My goodness ! I can see that tax is a real issue and of course it always is.
But what so very many Brit. expats. overlook is the question of IHT.
At a swingeing 40% on everything over £650,000 ( for a married couple who have left their estates to each other ) this is the "big" one !

The number of adult children who have been utterly dismayed that their Ma & Pa had overlooked planning for this eventual tax is legion !

Comments welcome....

I cant recall how to add a signature but I have added my co-ords as an attachment.

Bestest, Kevin J

What a bummer innit?

bobd22 Jun 18th 2012 5:59 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 10125863)
If I had an estate worth 650k inheritance tax wouldn´t be worrying me. I would be out spending it.

Too true

lynnxa Jun 18th 2012 6:15 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10125850)
My goodness ! I can see that tax is a real issue and of course it always is.
But what so very many Brit. expats. overlook is the question of IHT.
At a swingeing 40% on everything over £650,000 ( for a married couple who have left their estates to each other ) this is the "big" one !

The number of adult children who have been utterly dismayed that their Ma & Pa had overlooked planning for this eventual tax is legion !

Comments welcome....

I cant recall how to add a signature but I have added my co-ords as an attachment.

Bestest, Kevin J

this though is a thread about income tax & paying autónomo - not inheritance tax.......... as you would know if you had read the thread :rolleyes:

rafikiphoto Jun 18th 2012 8:58 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10125850)
My goodness ! I can see that tax is a real issue and of course it always is.
But what so very many Brit. expats. overlook is the question of IHT.
At a swingeing 40% on everything over £650,000 ( for a married couple who have left their estates to each other ) this is the "big" one !

I thought we had already said that!

Fred James Jun 18th 2012 9:10 am

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 10125855)
FAO Fred James !

My goodness you have obviously been reading "me" somewhere else online !

Possibly but please stick to the subject of the thread which is declaring income tax - not IHT.

megmet Jun 18th 2012 12:43 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 10125882)
What a bummer innit?

Well I'm spending the kids inheritance NOW!
They each have had a very good financial start from us on their twenty fifth birthdays.... now they can make their own way! :nod: :D

As for declaring.....I'm starting to wish I hadn't, trying to sort out the bungles HMRC have made over the last couple of years is about to make my Spanish tax return something of a fairy story.

irishactress Jun 22nd 2012 5:12 pm

Re: Declaring income
 
Get a life and stop badmouthing your friend - someone should tell this poor soul what a grass you are, with a friend like you, who needs an enemy!

jimenato Jun 22nd 2012 7:53 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by irishactress (Post 10134294)
Get a life and stop badmouthing your friend - someone should tell this poor soul what a grass you are, with a friend like you, who needs an enemy!

:rofl:

Domino Jun 22nd 2012 8:52 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by megmet (Post 10126444)
Well I'm spending the kids inheritance NOW!
They each have had a very good financial start from us on their twenty fifth birthdays.... now they can make their own way! :nod: :D

As for declaring.....I'm starting to wish I hadn't, trying to sort out the bungles HMRC have made over the last couple of years is about to make my Spanish tax return something of a fairy story.

well why not keep it that way, there's nothing like a good fairy story when dealing with the tax man
AFAIK there is no disclosure or checking between GB & SP, unless you have lots of noughts on the end, when International Terrorism looms.
but I am sure you aren't one of those
;)

Domino Jun 22nd 2012 8:55 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by irishactress (Post 10134294)
Get a life and stop badmouthing your friend - someone should tell this poor soul what a grass you are, with a friend like you, who needs an enemy!

we haven't had such a first time post for such a long time
the future looks bright the future looks irish (actress)

(apologies to Orange)

:rofl:

nogard Jun 22nd 2012 9:20 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by Stillwater (Post 10117100)
No, she is right: an upright socialist type never does anything wrong!

Well said and bang on. Champagne socialist!

Beaverstate Jun 22nd 2012 9:25 pm

Re: Declaring income
 

Originally Posted by nogard (Post 10134522)
Well said and bang on. Champagne socialist!

Is that the same as "champagne taste on a beer budget" I have many friends like that.

Fred James Jun 22nd 2012 9:28 pm

Re: Declaring income
 
Can we get back on topic please.


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