jimenato

I have a friend (no it's true) who is a British pensioner (old age type) but works as a private teacher here in Spain. She says she needn't declare her earnings as she pays tax on her pensions in the UK. Surely she's wrong? I would say she should be paying autonomo and declaring her income for tax. She sees herself as a sort of model citizen - upright socialist type who never does anything wrong. I say she is a freeloader who is fiddling the system in exactly the same way as anybody else who works on the black. Am I right?

Stillwater

No, she is right: an upright socialist type never does anything wrong!

Lionda

I would say it's her own business and none of yours

Fred James

Unless it's a UK government pension she should be declaring it in Spain.

jimenato

Ah! But she's very vocal about anyone fiddling...

Lionda

That puts a different slant on it

jimenato

I really meant her teaching income in Spain. She's been doing it forever - I guess she knew she was on the black before she became a pensioner - now she seems to think she's in the clear.

I must say I have some sympathy with people in general in her position - if she had to pay autonomo and the rest what she does wouldn't be worth doing.

But it galls me a little that she is so against fiddling when she is doing it herself...

HBG

Any British pensioner in Spain would be mad to go self-employed and pay 260 Euros a month autonomo, irrespective of how much their additional income would be, and I suspect it would be a tiny amount as a private teacher giving a few lessons in her spare time.

I think before the Spanish authorities would go after such a trivial matter, they would deal with their own 'black' workers first - millions of them, and not pensioners either.

Mind you, the woman shouldn't be as silly as to advertise something like that, especially in a bar frequented by 'friends' prepared to grass her up.

cricketman

Of course you are correct

Maybe suggest that Spain wouldnt be in this mess if it wasnt for people like her

chrisjolly

Yes you are right and she should declare her income and if she is a resident then she should do it anyway whether she is teaching or not. Thousands of people work for black money including the Spanish..but then there are thousands in the UK doing it too. She should not be discussing it as Hacienda will be very interested to know about it.

avocados

Of course she should declare her income. If you wish you can report her to "Inspeccion Trabajo" at your nearest INSS.

But, there is a "crisis", so that's an excuse for everyone to declare nothing and pretend to be unemployed and destitute, hence the high unemployment figures, but continue to work in the black.

Everyone is doing it!!!!

OH bumped into someone on the street couple of days ago, from his former town. This bloke makes a living washing cars. He makes 100 euros per day.
Must have to wash a lot of cars for that.............No.............I charge 20 euros per car. ROFL. You see there's loads of dosh out there, but don't tell the government.

Having said all that, I wouldn't dream of paying taxes either, unless threatened with jail!!

jimenato

It seems a shame that it's so expensive to be legal. Many people want to earn pin-money but anyone who does so in Spain must be doing it illegally.

jackytoo

I am suprised that so many people discuss their financial affairs with aquaintances I wouldn't discuss what I earnt with anyone let alone tell them if I was tax dodging or claiming benefits

On this forum everyone seems to have intimate knowledge of everyone

whitelinen

Pensioners dont pay autonomos.

lynnxa

OK, so as a pensioner who is working what should she be doing?

at least declaring for tax, surely?