Re: Dale Farm
 

If someone refuses to act within the rules of society why should society treat them shackled by those rules

Re: Dale Farm
 

Spot on. The council were worse than useless (I heard from someone in planning just what was going on, and the only reason they acted was that if they didn't, then the buildings would have become legal by default.

As for supporters? I'd have hosed the area down with CS gas and let them come out in their own time.

Plus, kept all the vehicles and caravans back to test them for asbestos contamination and legal compliance, selling them off to pay for the decontamination of the site.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Indeed, but that is what happens of course.

Re: Dale Farm
 

it must come from the officers of the council who are the ones trained in these things, they are also paid to ensure there are no laws broken. The planning dept has people with experience coming out of their ears.
Councillors are the ones who poke their noses in and stir the mud and try to stop the officers from doing their duty............but u know all this bil.

looks like there will be some planning dept adverts going in the Local Govt journals over the next few months for new staff methinks.

that they have been left so long without to great a fuss gave them an element of credibility in the law courts, making the council out to be the prats they are.

If you had a problem they would give you the usual 28 days notice and then start visiting every month, after 6m you would get an injunction and formal court papers, with you picking up the bill. as they are "travellers" they get away scot free whilst the ratepayer and tax payer will have to cough up. Perhaps the councillors should be summonsed by the auditors.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Yes,I agree with your last point, Domino.

""Perhaps the councillors should be summonsed by the auditors"".

They should definitely be brought to book for failing in their duty, negligence and costing the taxpayer a fortune.

Punish them through their pockets or give them porridge or better still both, sending a strong message to other councils.

Now while they're about it, why not do them for racial prejudice as well ?

Racial prejudice in favour of Irish Gypos against English residents.

Might give them something else to think about,..... though I realize there's less than a cat in hells chance of it actually happening.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Lovely thought, but I suspect I may have more chance of getting made pope.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Isnt positive the same as negative and against the law ?

This is what is the perceived problem with immigrants who come to the country and get given houses first, who go straight on to top wack benefits when our kids cant get a house or get rejected for benefits ? ?
for every one who may have been subjected to opression in their own country there are 10 who claim it but have never experienced it.

Those from Dale Farm have only themselves to blame, they have never made any attempt to integrate with the rest of the population and in many instances are just "new age" travellers, left over hippies, and have no ethnic link to Romany or Gypsy ancestors.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Before the recent influx of would be hippies,tree huggers, various hangers on and so called do-gooders, virtually everyone on site that I heard interviewed spoke with a strong oirish accent and the reporters present at that time appeared to be of the opinion that virtually all of them were irish gypo so-called travellers,... or should that be irish tinkers or something else ?.....

I'm sure bil could describe them much more appropriately than me anyway. ;):rofl:

Re: Dale Farm
 

well I see http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/
has plots of land for sale.

as to the rights or wrongs of it, the rights of the individual cannot be allowed to over rule the rights of the majority. If that majority has a system of laws and rules that must be obeyed then they must be obeyed by everyone. If someone doesnt agree with that then as I said before there are a few empty islands off Scotland they can go to. Not that they will be able to freeload very much from there.
anyone of any persuasion who wishes to go and join them may do so, but not to expect any help and support from the rest of us.

Now wasnt there a ship going to The New World that was looking for some hardy souls to live in a colony or something ...............

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UK gypsies, aka TGBs are just Irish tinkers, and should be sent back there .

For those bleeding hearts who start whimpering about their human rights, with rights come responsibilities.

If you want your rights respected, obey the law and pay your taxes.

Re: Dale Farm
 

Plenty of empty housing in Spain :rofl:

Re: Dale Farm
 

No thanks...:thumbdown:

Re: Dale Farm
 

I could go off you

with Santander about to sell 12,000 reposessed finished and part finished flats etc taken from collapsed builders for a whacking profit............