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Dick Dasterdly Oct 18th 2011 8:37 pm

Dale Farm
 
Anyone watching the Dale Farm fiasco ?
It's all happening now.
Quite entertaining, seems best coverage is on Sky.
Lets just hope it doesn't turn into violence and serious injuries.

bil Oct 18th 2011 9:39 pm

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9683237)
Anyone watching the Dale Farm fiasco ?
It's all happening now.
Quite entertaining, seems best coverage is on Sky.
Lets just hope it doesn't turn into violence and serious injuries.

I hope they do a vid of the best bits, with break dancing gippos connected up to tasers.

In Cambs, the police used to say that 60+% of car theft was down to some 16 gypsies, my farmer friends were routinely robbed blind by gypsies.

If we had built anything without planning permission, the council would have come round and made us demolish it.

The pikeys are as per usual taking the piss, the police seldom have the guts or willingness to deal with them properly, and the council there is insane. They allowed the pikeys to get away with planning violations for the last ten years, and they have finally acted, because if they hadn't, and the ten year mark had been passed, the site would have been made legal.

On top of that the whole damn site has been contaminated by asbestos by the reckless dumping of it.

Personally, I would have sealed the site off, and deemed that the whole site was contaminated. People would be made to strip and go thru decontamination, all vehicles going out would have to be searched and checked, all contaminated materials disposed of, and all cash and every item of value confiscated to pay for the operation and the site clearup. All vehicles without insurance MOT etc to be confiscated and so on.

Dick Dasterdly Oct 18th 2011 9:53 pm

Re: Dale Farm
 
I see quite a few of those big cable drums/reels laid about the place.
Strangely they all seem to be empty.
I wonder where all the cable has gone ?


There's been a few cases of cable being nicked from the main railway lines lately bringing the whole damned system to a standstill.

Much the same in Spain I believe, but no great surprise as scrap metal prices are sky high at present.

bil Oct 18th 2011 11:53 pm

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9683347)
I see quite a few of those big cable drums/reels laid about the place.
Strangely they all seem to be empty.
I wonder where all the cable has gone ?


There's been a few cases of cable being nicked from the main railway lines lately bringing the whole damned system to a standstill.

Much the same in Spain I believe, but no great surprise as scrap metal prices are sky high at present.

Oh yeah. Anything gone missing? Where's the local gypsies?

My mate was a copper, and ages ago, when the Gypsies were complaining about being called TGBs (thieving Gypsy bastards), their local leader had gone to court over it, and he won the case. We were both watching the news as he came out of the court saying that the judge had agreed, and that it was wrong for people to call them TGBs.

My mate turned to me and said "I have lost count of the number of times we have arrested him for theft. He has a charge sheet for theft arrests as long as your arm. I'd say that makes him a TGB, wouldn't you?"

Dick Dasterdly Oct 19th 2011 1:11 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
Seems like tree huggers and all sorts of wierdos have joined in.

The main group of original residents appear to be Irish Gypsies and I just wondered if they have the same sort of trouble with them over in the Emerald Isle, or have they all moved over to England ?

I don't imagine for one minute they would ever have moved over for the richer pickings.

bil Oct 19th 2011 2:47 am

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9683616)
Seems like tree huggers and all sorts of wierdos have joined in.

The main group of original residents appear to be Irish Gypsies and I just wondered if they have the same sort of trouble with them over in the Emerald Isle, or have they all moved over to England ?

I don't imagine for one minute they would ever have moved over for the richer pickings.

I'd send them back to ireland tooty sweety., and tell them never to return.

tommy.irene Oct 19th 2011 3:23 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
They cant do the same in Ireland as they are moved on by the police.. so they come to soft touch UK and do what they like..human rights acts..

tommy.irene Oct 19th 2011 3:32 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
Look up Irish Travellers on Google..Project Description :
The research question was broadly concerned with discrimination. The aims of this research were to examine the situation of Irish Travellers within the criminal justice systems on the island of Ireland (Northern Ireland & the Republic of Ireland). The objectives were to ascertain Irish Travellers’ experiences and perceptions of criminal justice, and review other existing qualitative and quantitative data related to the Traveller Community and criminal justice within the two jurisdictions.

During the literature review it became evident that anti-trespass laws have exacerbated the potential for the social inclusion of many Irish Travellers. Despite a range of existing by-laws within both jurisdictions by which illegally encamped Travellers could be moved on, one Act within the Republic of Ireland has had especially dire repercussions for many Travellers: the Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2002....... This gave police new powers to move Travellers on with less than 24 hours notice. Failing to do so, the vehicles and caravans of Travellers have often been impounded........ Alternatively, within Northern Ireland concerns were raised that should it be implemented, the Unauthorised Encampments (Northern Ireland) Order 2005 would have a similarly negative impact upon the social inclusion of Travellers. Specifically, issues were raised by statutory authorities, notably the Police Service for Northern Ireland of the disparity between the implications of adherence to obligations incurred under the terms of Section 75 and application of the proposed Unauthorised Encampments Order. This is due to the fact that Section 75 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998 requires public authorities, in carrying out their functions relating to Northern Ireland, to have due regard to the need to promote equality of opportunity and to have regard to the desirability of promoting good relations. Consequently, investigation of the effects of recently ratified anti-trespass legislation and the potential ramifications of proposed anti-trespass legislation upon Travellers became a focus point, under-pinning the aims and objectives of this research.

Overall, forty-two interviews were completed. Twenty-five of these were with Irish Travellers; nine with members of criminal justice agencies; six with non-Traveller members of Traveller support agencies; one with a non-Traveller working for a voluntary agency and one with a priest working in a prison in the South. Criminal justice agencies were invited to participate in order to redress the obvious deficit of existing knowledge concerning the Traveller Community and to enable comparison between the experiences and perceptions of Travellers and official policy responses. Interviews were semi-structured using a list of extensive open ended questions. Questions were developed in consideration of information gleaned from the existing literature review. In the main, these related to nomadism and anti-trespass laws; obstacles in access to employment; access to services and goods such as shops, pubs, restaurants and leisure centres and the outcomes of complaints regarding such issues; knowledge of human rights; views upon media representation of Travellers; the criminalisation of Travellers; stop and search by police; complaints against police practice; incarceration; drug use and risk of offending; access to solicitors, and allegations of feuding

TOMMY LOVES YOU ALL........

snikpoh Oct 19th 2011 4:21 am

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9683765)
I'd send them back to ireland tooty sweety., and tell them never to return.

Don't the TRUE travellers originally come from India?

bil Oct 19th 2011 5:08 am

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 9683927)
Don't the TRUE travellers originally come from India?

Fine. Send them there. Send them to the dark side of the moon for all I care. I just want to see every last thieving one gone from the country, never to return.

The honest ones can stay, and the cost of the site to house them all shouldn't be too much. How much land do 6 caravans need?

JLFS Oct 19th 2011 6:02 am

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9683326)
I hope they do a vid of the best bits, with break dancing gippos connected up to tasers.

In Cambs, the police used to say that 60+% of car theft was down to some 16 gypsies, my farmer friends were routinely robbed blind by gypsies.

If we had built anything without planning permission, the council would have come round and made us demolish it.

The pikeys are as per usual taking the piss, the police seldom have the guts or willingness to deal with them properly, and the council there is insane. They allowed the pikeys to get away with planning violations for the last ten years, and they have finally acted, because if they hadn't, and the ten year mark had been passed, the site would have been made legal.

On top of that the whole damn site has been contaminated by asbestos by the reckless dumping of it.

Personally, I would have sealed the site off, and deemed that the whole site was contaminated. People would be made to strip and go thru decontamination, all vehicles going out would have to be searched and checked, all contaminated materials disposed of, and all cash and every item of value confiscated to pay for the operation and the site clearup. All vehicles without insurance MOT etc to be confiscated and so on.



That is one of the most cruel and atrocious things anyone could say.......





but dontcha just love it?:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Fredbargate Oct 19th 2011 6:03 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
I can't understand what the delay is, with reference to the scaffolding at the entrance.
Put a chain round it, bring in a tractor, inform the protesters that they have five minutes to get down
Tow it away
Job done

Dick Dasterdly Oct 19th 2011 6:06 am

Re: Dale Farm
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9684170)
I can't understand what the delay is, with reference to the scaffolding at the entrance.
Put a chain round it, bring in a tractor, inform the protesters that they have five minutes to get down
Tow it away
Job done

Nah, use the tasers and watch em come down in style. :D

anonimouse Oct 19th 2011 6:14 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
I don't understand the delay either...

All they have to do is stop their dole money and they will be scrambling over each other down that scaffold to the dole office like bullets.

Fredbargate Oct 19th 2011 6:21 am

Re: Dale Farm
 
Do you remember the Strangeways riots many years ago

My solution.

Rent out Sniper rifles at £1000 per shot

Riot over.


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