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Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Im waiting for the movie to come and then we will know the truth..... CAPTAIN SAVES A BOAT... Wrong title ..Captain saves a lifeboat..
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Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by tommy.irene
(Post 9878196)
Im waiting for the movie to come and then we will know the truth..... CAPTAIN SAVES A BOAT... Wrong title ..Captain saves a lifeboat..
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Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by anonimouse
(Post 9878002)
It's ok, thank you kindly though.
Just give me the cash. Another question for the experts on here....When does a boat become a Ship? 1. A ship has a defiend route, so the preposition "on" is used, whereas a boat has no defined route unless it is a ferry boats) so uses the preposition "in". The other difference is that a with a ship the "main event" is usually inside, whereas with a boat the deck is used more, ie for fishing, diving etc. And you dont have to be any kind of expert to know that, you just have to have studied English as a foreign language, like wot I done |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 9878178)
Saxy is right -although there doesn't seem to be a real definition.
A "Ship's Boat" would be lifted onto the ship. One simple definition is you can sleep on a ship but not on a boat. Submarines, as you point out, for strange naval reasons are called "boats" in the navy. Of course it gets complicated with recreational craft. Saxy would refer to his sailing craft as a boat - hardly a ship - but technically it is a ship. Which begs the question, what is a yacht? One could assume it is a small(ish) craft with sails but what about Britannia - the old Royal Yacht? Then of course there is the Ocean Liner. Is the QM2 a liner or a "cruise ship? Was the QE1 a liner? Probably but did it's classification change when it went cruising? Isn't English a wonderful language!! |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Saxy
(Post 9878220)
Actually it's classed as a 'Sailing Cruiser'.
Do you tell your friends you are a boat owner or a ship owner? |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 9878249)
That's what is says on the sales brochure.
Do you tell your friends you are a boat owner or a ship owner? |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 9878178)
Of course it gets complicated with recreational craft. Saxy would refer to his sailing craft as a boat - hardly a ship - but technically it is a ship.
Which begs the question, what is a yacht? One could assume it is a small(ish) craft with sails but what about Britannia - the old Royal Yacht? Isn't English a wonderful language!! Therefore Saxy owns a yacht. I used to but I never like calling it a yacht - I preferred the term boat as do many yacht owners. |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 9878353)
As far as I'm aware a yacht is any vessel of any size powered by any means used for pleasure - and the word yacht is Dutch.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...igayachts.html Gigayacht,apparently. Would do me quite nicely along with the vessels company, ...... and I think you're right about the pleasure aspect also. ;):D .....which brings me to another point. Lets just simplify things and call them all vessels. Now vessels can either contain water, or else float and keep water out, .....though to her credit the C.C. has already matched both of these criteria during her brief time on the high seas. |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 9878255)
Or a yacht owner?
To confuse the issue even further I held an RYA "Yachtmaster's Certificate" and a DOT "Boatsman's Licence". I also read "Practical Boat Owner" and "Yachting World". Pleasure boats are legally registered on the UK "Ship Register" either as a "Small Ship" or a proper "Ship". There doesn't seem to be a "Boat Register". I belonged to a "Sailing Club" and a "Yacht Club" but never a "Boat Club". The "Royal Vessel Association" doesn't sound right! Confusing isn't it! |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 9878042)
watching a film of the refloating will probably be of far more interest than a programme cobbled together with news items already transmitted to fill an already bad nights entertainment. |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9878561)
I think it will be cut up rather than refloated.
It'll take more than a hacksaw to do it! |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 9878450)
I owned sailing yachts for many years. I always referred to it as a boat but would be happy to describe myself as a "Yachtie".
To confuse the issue even further I held an RYA "Yachtmaster's Certificate" and a DOT "Boatsman's Licence". I also read "Practical Boat Owner" and "Yachting World". Pleasure boats are legally registered on the UK "Ship Register" either as a "Small Ship" or a proper "Ship". There doesn't seem to be a "Boat Register". I belonged to a "Sailing Club" and a "Yacht Club" but never a "Boat Club". The "Royal Vessel Association" doesn't sound right! Confusing isn't it! things maritime, especially when considering law of the sea and the carriage of goods and passengers is, as I have said before, a very old and dusty calling, where case law can go back centuries. Perhaps the reason why the UK is seen as the pinnacle of resolving maritime legal wrangles. |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 9878450)
I owned sailing yachts for many years. I always referred to it as a boat but would be happy to describe myself as a "Yachtie".
To confuse the issue even further I held an RYA "Yachtmaster's Certificate" and a DOT "Boatsman's Licence". I also read "Practical Boat Owner" and "Yachting World". Pleasure boats are legally registered on the UK "Ship Register" either as a "Small Ship" or a proper "Ship". There doesn't seem to be a "Boat Register". I belonged to a "Sailing Club" and a "Yacht Club" but never a "Boat Club". The "Royal Vessel Association" doesn't sound right! Confusing isn't it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B2PQfJ2SAg4 |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9879655)
This is my nephew skippering Hugo Boss, he's an ocean racer, impressive video! Alex Thomson, the guy doing the keel walk often shippers the boat in races, my nephew now normally prepares it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B2PQfJ2SAg4 Was it a tough tactical manovere keeping the yacht at that angle, or did they just have all the fatties sitting on the starboard side? Either way, very skillfull... |
Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9879655)
This is my nephew skippering Hugo Boss, he's an ocean racer, impressive video! Alex Thomson, the guy doing the keel walk often skippers the yacht in races, my nephew now normally prepares it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B2PQfJ2SAg4 |
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