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Old Jun 26th 2015 | 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by Fred James
I would be interested in knowing how people have actually submitted a zero return.

I recently produced a declaration for some friends, which resulted in a zero return.

I usually take my return to the bank who are happy to process the payment, but in this case, their bank refused to do it as no payment was involved.

They then went to the tax office to submit it, but even that proved difficult and involved a couple of visits before they sorted it out.

I have suggested that next time they take the option at the end of the declaration to make a donation to the Catholic Church. This way the bank will have something to transact which should solve the problem.

Yes, I know that an online declaration is possible, but that gets complicated because of the need for digital certificates or a PIN24.
No idea how he managed to get the office to deal with it but prior to 2012 all of our returns were nil returns taken to the hacienda by our gestor and also stamped by our local bank. In 2013 I received a rebate due to the change in circumstances and once again that went through without a hitch.

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Old Jun 26th 2015 | 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by marcbernard
Why would anyone want to contribute to that sort of organisation?
If it saves you a trip to the tax office for one Euro it has to be a good solution!

If that worries you you can be sure that, by the time the donation has been processed, the church will get nothing.
 
Old Jun 26th 2015 | 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by Rosemary
No idea how he managed to get the office to deal with it but prior to 2012 all of our returns were nil returns taken to the hacienda by our gestor and also stamped by our local bank. In 2013 I received a rebate due to the change in circumstances and once again that went through without a hitch.

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The key point is that you used a Gestor to do it. That always works but it should be possible to do it yourself without any hassle. Sadly it can be difficult, usually only on a local basis - some offices are easy, some are not.
 
Old Jun 26th 2015 | 8:57 am
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Forgot when I wrote that post that he said at the time that he had to go there several times to get them to deal with it so it was not even easy for him and that is why we continued to use his services.

As you so rightly said some are easy, some are not. We all seem to find that no matter what we are undertaking here "it depends" is normally the answer to queries as to how to go about things. Each place has its difficulties and it is hard to predict anything, the joys of living in Spain.

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Old Aug 20th 2015 | 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by Dondurma
Well apparently not for those for example who initially register but earn less than €8000- they are not required to send an annual return unless their circumstances change

I was just thinking if being tax exempt ( Crown Pension) after first registration, would it be a similar situation
I was just going through this earlier thread and would like to add a comment. Yes, apart from an initial return, people with income below certain levels (it's actually quite complicated) don't have to make an annual return.

However, I noticed in the (very) small print, that anyone who has income subject to the double taxation treaty MUST declare every year.

I note that you intend to do that anyway, but I just wanted to add that, in case anyone else reads this thread and thinks they can get away without declaring just because the income is below the threshold.
 
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Thanks Fred -excellent confirmation as there are I expect quite a few in Spain/ considering moving to Spain who are in a similar position to myself
 

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