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Rosemary Nov 29th 2021 11:21 pm

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13077086)
Thanks Lynn. Just downloaded the updated certificate,

https://coronavirus.san.gva.es/certificado-digital-ue

My town hall sent me that site today and I was about to put it on here when I spotted that you had already done so. Thank you, I believe that it will help a lot of members.

Rosemary

Lynn R Dec 1st 2021 1:20 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 13075927)
Thanks Lynn I had AZ both previous jabs so that may be why the appointments have now started to show in the Salude Responded App. Strangely they don't when my wife logs in hers still shows the message screen, she is a few years younger than me but over 60. I will make some enquiries at the Centro salud .
I have just researched the Salud Andalucía App a bit further and found a full explanation re 3rd jab which outlines exactly as you said Lynn re AZ. I have now made an appointment. My wife's still shows not required message. My guess is they will be rolling it down by age I'm 67 she's 63. So I guess they probably did 69-67 first then 67-65 etc so we will check in a week or so and see if appointments are available for her booster. Thanks for your help much appreciated.

What I said a few days ago is no longer true - I HAVE now been contacted by phone a couple of hours ago, bringing my appointment forward by one day to this evening, and it will now be in the mass vaccination centre at the feria ground, not my local health centre (so much for thinking I was just going to be able to walk around the corner!). Don't know why they have changed it but things are obviously changing fast.

SanNico Dec 3rd 2021 3:02 am

Re: Covid update
 
Keep your old QR code handy as well if you've had a booster. We had the booster last Friday, the QR code fails the scan for both of us. However, the old QR code passes the scan.

bobd22 Dec 3rd 2021 7:02 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13077513)
What I said a few days ago is no longer true - I HAVE now been contacted by phone a couple of hours ago, bringing my appointment forward by one day to this evening, and it will now be in the mass vaccination centre at the feria ground, not my local health centre (so much for thinking I was just going to be able to walk around the corner!). Don't know why they have changed it but things are obviously changing fast.

We had ours yesterday arranged via Salude Responde App. Ours were done at our village medical centre.
our covid certificate was updated today .

DLC Dec 4th 2021 5:52 am

Re: Covid update
 
UK's just added a pre-departure test to the list of requirements from Tuesday 4am. This is the thing they should have announced about a week ago instead of the post-arrival test.

Negative PCR or lateral flow. More info here.

Barriej Dec 4th 2021 8:03 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13078506)
UK's just added a pre-departure test to the list of requirements from Tuesday 4am. This is the thing they should have announced about a week ago instead of the post-arrival test.

Negative PCR or lateral flow. More info here.

Still a better response than some countries who just allow people to come in with the proof of jabbing.

Testing is the only way to control it. Jabbed don't give immunity or protection.



DLC Dec 4th 2021 8:39 am

Re: Covid update
 
It makes the confusingly-named Day 2 test redundant though. But you've still got to do that test as well after arrival and isolate until you get the negative result.

Chipmonk Dec 4th 2021 6:00 pm

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13078563)
It makes the confusingly-named Day 2 test redundant though. But you've still got to do that test as well after arrival and isolate until you get the negative result.

Frankly, it's a political decision. I'm all for testing ( even though I'm booked to go 26th and its expensive) but this is simply a response to the criticism of the government with respect to Christmas parties etc. Boris doesnt want to upset the tabloids who all just want to have a piss up. So his response his make it look like hes doing something by hitting travellers ( a much smaller number of people many who are non Brits). Omicron is in UK so making it look like a problem from somewhere else doesn't hold water. If he really cared they would bring in Covid passports, reduce opening hours, compulsory mask wearing etc

Barriej Dec 4th 2021 7:52 pm

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 13078627)
Frankly, it's a political decision. I'm all for testing ( even though I'm booked to go 26th and its expensive) but this is simply a response to the criticism of the government with respect to Christmas parties etc. Boris doesnt want to upset the tabloids who all just want to have a piss up. So his response his make it look like hes doing something by hitting travellers ( a much smaller number of people many who are non Brits). Omicron is in UK so making it look like a problem from somewhere else doesn't hold water. If he really cared they would bring in Covid passports, reduce opening hours, compulsory mask wearing etc

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While I agree with most of this.
Particularly the mask wearing as we still wear almost constantly.

Covid passports mean nothing. It's just another bit of useless paper.
Testing is the only way to control this. And it's not just me a work mate's wife is a virologist and she has been saying this for ages.

You can test negative one day and sit on a plane with 200 others, some of who may have come in contact after the negative test. So I'm happy to take tests to travel (not that I will be anytime soon) and to have one to release...
And there are still hundreds of idiots who want to go on holiday when it's not important.
Australia has cases of the new variant and its almost impossible to get there, even with testing and isolation.

Either the world just reopens and treats this like a bad flu (which it will at some point) or it carries on opening and closing borders willy nilly. Which is what I fear will happen...

Chipmonk Dec 4th 2021 9:29 pm

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I agree that testing is necessary but why hit people who are trying to visit family ( two years since my son saw his 87 year old gran!). And once we are tested etc in UK we can go to a pantomime for 2 hours with hundreds of people, or a packed bar, or shopping mall, o Christmas market- and these are safe places??? It doesn't make sense unless it is seen for what it is- an attempt to keep the UK voters happy by appearing to sound tough when in reality it is all about manipulation.. And now we find that last Christmas, whilst many of us were forced to stay on our own because of all the rules Boris was having a party in number 10 and we are meant to believe that that was allowed!!!. If people start to turn against more restrictions it will be understandable.

DLC Dec 4th 2021 10:43 pm

Re: Covid update
 
I try to keep politics out of it, but I agree with Chipmonk.

There is already community transmission of the Omicron variant, and the measures they take are re-impose the post-arrival test tell everyone it's under review in three weeks, then a week later re-impose the post-departure test.

They should be doing social distancing, contact tracing, limited events, and probably the Covid pass to convince the stragglers to get a vaccination.

Everything is driven by what the Tory party allows Johnson to do, which is very little except blame abroad (out of the populism playbook).

scrubbedexpat147 Dec 4th 2021 11:41 pm

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 13078672)
I agree that testing is necessary but why hit people who are trying to visit family ( two years since my son saw his 87 year old gran!). And once we are tested etc in UK we can go to a pantomime for 2 hours with hundreds of people, or a packed bar, or shopping mall, o Christmas market- and these are safe places??? It doesn't make sense unless it is seen for what it is- an attempt to keep the UK voters happy by appearing to sound tough when in reality it is all about manipulation.. And now we find that last Christmas, whilst many of us were forced to stay on our own because of all the rules Boris was having a party in number 10 and we are meant to believe that that was allowed!!!. If people start to turn against more restrictions it will be understandable.

People will turn soon. I heard of poor people getting paid to have peoples injections in his arm. He’s getting £500 a jab mind you.

Fredbargate Dec 5th 2021 2:22 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13078704)
People will turn soon. I heard of poor people getting paid to have peoples injections in his arm. He’s getting £500 a jab mind you.

Wait until you are sat on a plane next to the idiot who paid the £500

scrubbedexpat147 Dec 5th 2021 2:45 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13078726)
Wait until you are sat on a plane next to the idiot who paid the £500

I’m not flying anytime soon. The restrictions have took the buzz out of going to the airport. Also the tests and paranoia of covid politics changing while your away it’s pointless going away anymore. Wouldn’t be surprised alot of airlines go bump in the future. I don’t criticise anyone for not wanting a vaccine. Even though I have always had mine. The forced covid vaccine politics is making me not want to have anymore. What’s going on now in Europe is tyranny.

Barriej Dec 5th 2021 3:09 am

Re: Covid update
 

Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13078693)
I try to keep politics out of it, but I agree with Chipmonk.

There is already community transmission of the Omicron variant, and the measures they take are re-impose the post-arrival test tell everyone it's under review in three weeks, then a week later re-impose the post-departure test.

They should be doing social distancing, contact tracing, limited events, and probably the Covid pass to convince the stragglers to get a vaccination.

Everything is driven by what the Tory party allows Johnson to do, which is very little except blame abroad (out of the populism playbook).

Leaving politics out of it completely.

Again the covid pass means nothing, just that you have had the jab.. (Im sorry to keep making this comment but so many around our way are saying the jab has protected them) But what from? You can still catch it and pass it, you may not die (but thats mainly for the variant you have been jabbed against)
So it allows you to travel, go in a bar or restaurant with more than 50 other people (so 49 is safe) I know a number had to be plucked out of the air..

So case in point... A good friend of ours lives up the hill from the village, rarely goes to town, except on market days to swap stuff he grows, the local butcher takes veg from him in exchange for meat (well stuff he is unable to catch himself), he has chickens, goats and rabbits. Lives off grid and hasn't been jabbed.
What is there to persuade him to get jabbed?

Nothing, he is not at much if any risk of catching it. Even less risk of spreading it.

And before anyone asks, he is a retired Chemistry Professor from Germany.. So not an idiot.

We are not fully jabbed as it took ages to get the temp sip card.
Had to change our plans slightly for Christmas as we were going to a big restaurant (which I didn't want to go to anyway as Im not happy with lots of people around me and I was like that before covid) and I wont pay €40 each for a test just for an expensive turkey dinner.
We are now going to a little local place with a couple of friends.




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