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MEL & JOHN Jul 8th 2021 12:11 am

COVID RULES
 
Hiya all,

I would appreciate confirmation, or correction, with regard to the considerations for travel from England to Faro and then on to Ayamonte. This is from the viewpoint of people who have been double vaccinated.
My understanding, at the time of writing and whilst both Portugal and Spain are Amber countries, is that we have to:-

Prior to leaving the UK book a clinic to send us kits for Day 2 and Day 8 testing which we undertake on our return (have looked on the gov.uk site but would appreciate recommendations with regard to best cost and reliability please) Self Swab at home are around £85 plus
Prior to leaving the UK complete the on line Passenger Locator Form to be able to fly into Faro which is on the www.portugalcleanand safe.pt. As we go into Spain I have read that people put in their Spanish address but a Villa Real Post code, could we put the Costa Esuri code?

Whilst on holiday we need to book a clinic to take covid tests which you have to have to be allowed to board your flight home.
These must be taken 3 days before you fly and must be either **PCR/LAMP/LATERAL FLOW. So, if flying early Sunday morning, you need to have the test from Thursday onwards .
*REQUIREMENTS This document must match the name on your passport and show your DOB. Show the test result and the address and contact details for the clinic. It must also show the type of test carried out and the device used.
I have read on this forum and on FB that the San Roque Medical Centre in Ayamonte carry out these tests and they are approx €30. I cannot see anything on their web site
Can anybody confirm what type of **test they do ? Do you have to book in for your test a few days before? How soon do you receive the result? Does their certificate cover the *REQUIREMENTS?
Presume pre-flight tests in Spain will be acceptable to board a flight in Portugal OR should we find a clinic in Portugal?

Prior to leaving to return to the UK we have to complete a Passenger Locator Form which is on the gov.uk site.

No self isolation on return from Amber or Green countries as from 19/07/21 If Spain and Portugal go Green then I think (????) that only a DAY 2 test is needed.

I am sure there are other potential travellers hoping to get to their CE homes that need confirmation of what to do to meet the regulations so any tips. information and advice would be appreciated.

With my thanks

Mel



Ken and Tina Jul 8th 2021 1:42 am

Re: COVID RULES
 
We returned from Costa Esuri, via Faro, just over a week ago, at that time, here's what we had to do before going, during our trip, and on our return -

-Firstly, we purchased all of our PCR tests via a company recommended by Easyjet, called RANDOX, who are based in Northern Ireland, found their service very prompt and first class, each PCR test cost £60. I have no affiliation with RANDOX, they were a recommended test facility by Easyjet.
-3 days prior to flying, LGW-FAR, completed a PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-2 days prior to flying, LGW-FAR, completed a passenger location form on the UK Government website, advising my address as just "Ayamonte - 21400".
-On arrival at LGW, nothing other than the usual required, until arriving at the gate, when I had to show proof of my negative test result, on my certificate.
-3 days prior to returning home, FAR-LGW, completed a PCR test (at my apartment), found my nearest RANDOX drop-off location, (Olhao, Portugal), dropped off sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-2 days prior to flying home, FAR-LGW, completed a passenger location form on the UK Government website, advising of my home quarantine address.
-On arrival at FAR, nothing other than the usual required, until arriving at the gate, when I had to show proof of my negative test result, on my certificate, my passenger location form, and boarding pass.
-On arriving into LGW, this is the bit which I found very frustrating.........walked straight through the airport, sailed through the electronic passport check, straight to the car park, and drove home. NOBODY at LGW spoke to me, asked me nothing, didn't ask to see a single test result of any kind, zip, nothing !!!!!.
-4 times in the first 2 days of being home, received phone calls asking if I was still quarantining, then no phone calls after that.
-2 days after returning home, completed a "Day-2" PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By late afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-5 days after returning home, completed a "Day-5, test to release" PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following mid-morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early evening that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.

The PCR test I took to return home, I ordered from RANDOX, and took with me to Costa Esuri. My Day-2 test I ordered prior to flying out to CE. My Day-5 Test to release, I ordered when I returned home. The test kit arrived usually 24 hrs after ordering them from RANDOX.
The biggest pain, is finding a UK/Algarve RANDOX drop-off location, there looks to be quite a few, and these are slowly increasing, you may be lucky, and have one more local to you.
Also, with a total of 4 x PCR tests, for my wife and I, total cost £480.

shirley and anthony hide Jul 8th 2021 4:54 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by Ken and Tina (Post 13027259)
We returned from Costa Esuri, via Faro, just over a week ago, at that time, here's what we had to do before going, during our trip, and on our return -

-Firstly, we purchased all of our PCR tests via a company recommended by Easyjet, called RANDOX, who are based in Northern Ireland, found their service very prompt and first class, each PCR test cost £60. I have no affiliation with RANDOX, they were a recommended test facility by Easyjet.
-3 days prior to flying, LGW-FAR, completed a PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-2 days prior to flying, LGW-FAR, completed a passenger location form on the UK Government website, advising my address as just "Ayamonte - 21400".
-On arrival at LGW, nothing other than the usual required, until arriving at the gate, when I had to show proof of my negative test result, on my certificate.
-3 days prior to returning home, FAR-LGW, completed a PCR test (at my apartment), found my nearest RANDOX drop-off location, (Olhao, Portugal), dropped off sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-2 days prior to flying home, FAR-LGW, completed a passenger location form on the UK Government website, advising of my home quarantine address.
-On arrival at FAR, nothing other than the usual required, until arriving at the gate, when I had to show proof of my negative test result, on my certificate, my passenger location form, and boarding pass.
-On arriving into LGW, this is the bit which I found very frustrating.........walked straight through the airport, sailed through the electronic passport check, straight to the car park, and drove home. NOBODY at LGW spoke to me, asked me nothing, didn't ask to see a single test result of any kind, zip, nothing !!!!!.
-4 times in the first 2 days of being home, received phone calls asking if I was still quarantining, then no phone calls after that.
-2 days after returning home, completed a "Day-2" PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By late afternoon that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.
-5 days after returning home, completed a "Day-5, test to release" PCR test (at home), found my nearest UK RANDOX drop-off location, dropped off the sample, packaged as requested. Received confirmation from RANDOX early the following mid-morning that they had received my sample, and it was in their lab, awaiting testing. By early evening that day, had an email from RANDOX advising of a negative result, complete with result certificate.

The PCR test I took to return home, I ordered from RANDOX, and took with me to Costa Esuri. My Day-2 test I ordered prior to flying out to CE. My Day-5 Test to release, I ordered when I returned home. The test kit arrived usually 24 hrs after ordering them from RANDOX.
The biggest pain, is finding a UK/Algarve RANDOX drop-off location, there looks to be quite a few, and these are slowly increasing, you may be lucky, and have one more local to you.
Also, with a total of 4 x PCR tests, for my wife and I, total cost £480.

Thanks for ken and Tina
can I ask how did you order the test for going out of the UK
I looked on randox site and am struggling to see where you can have a test delivered to your home . It seems to say you have to visit one of their test centres

mark donna Jul 8th 2021 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027330)
Thanks for ken and Tina
can I ask how did you order the test for going out of the UK
I looked on randox site and am struggling to see where you can have a test delivered to your home . It seems to say you have to visit one of their test centres

if you go on Randox website you can pick the pre departure from U.K. when you book type in FLYRYANAIR and you will get up to £10 discount depending on what package you book. They do not ask for booking details with Ryanair We came home yesterday when there we booked our antigen test with Germano Da Sousa COVID testing in Tavira they also have clinics in VRSA and Monte Gordo but we just turned up and we’re fully booked so go on website phone and book couple of days in advance cost is 25 Euros for antigen and results in 24 hours sent in PDF to your email, everything else is as already been said

shirley and anthony hide Jul 8th 2021 7:20 am

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Originally Posted by mark donna (Post 13027372)
if you go on Randox website you can pick the pre departure from U.K. when you book type in FLYRYANAIR and you will get up to £10 discount depending on what package you book. They do not ask for booking details with Ryanair We came home yesterday when there we booked our antigen test with Germano Da Sousa COVID testing in Tavira they also have clinics in VRSA and Monte Gordo but we just turned up and we’re fully booked so go on website phone and book couple of days in advance cost is 25 Euros for antigen and results in 24 hours sent in PDF to your email, everything else is as already been said

Thanks very much for the info, much appreciated . Especially the Germano info .Will look into that.







MEL & JOHN Jul 8th 2021 9:14 am

Re: COVID RULES
 
Ken, Tina and Mark, thank you very much for all this info
I am sure I will be posting again soon as I still have a few niggles to sort 🤔

Jon-Bxl Jul 8th 2021 6:05 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 
With the ever changing rules re CV19 (remember Portugal on green list for just a few weeks). A couple of points.. as there have been some key changes in the past few days.

1. (UK rules) We saw in the UK, rules change for fully NHS vaccinated after July 19 . Even though we are both vax2'd, with UK approved vaccinations (Pfizer) , each have the EU digital covid certificates.... We cant currently travel to the UK with no quarantine after July 19, as Belgian residents. My UK passport wont help me, even though I meet exactly the same entrance criteria. The new rules are for those who have been NHS vaccinated only. (I hope that changes asap)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-ambe...tering-england

2. (EU rules) At about the same time the EU put both Spain and Portugal on the RED list.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/eu-affairs/176795/tbtb-portugal-and-most-of-spain-colour-red-on-european-coronavirus-map-travel-ecdc/

Whilst things have changed post Brexit, the SCIENCE behind this should be common. Travel is a risk first, then we have to check the entry requirements for 3 countries... As well as the exit from them depending on which way you are going, including, for example, the delay post vax2 to be considered fully vaccinated. (With the exception if flying into Seville and staying in Spain..... Then looking at the then current situation at the bridge for visits to PT)

:goodpost:To Ken and Tina to show all this complexity excellently in practice (and cost).... Post 2

Note that there (may) be different criteria for (e.g) air travel and road travel

Whilst we have different systems UK/EU I think its handy to keep an eye on both as the source data must be similar.. its only how that data is translated that is a tad different

Sorry to be 'negative' but I believe there (just) might be a chance and we turn RED over here in ES and PT. Its now turned RED, since arriving, in our case (EU) .... staying AMBER for UK .... But things often change.

In our case we are here for a while so will wait a bit before planning our return to get the latest news, and entry/exit criteria. We are driving, so must cross the ES-FR border, then the FR-BE one, and would normally want to stay a night in France.

Jon
PS Grant Schapps just said he 'hopes' that residents of non UK countries, with good certification of having had 2 WHO-approved vaccines, will in "short order" be allowed in quarantine-free, when pressed he suggested a 2 week timeframe to decision. I'm looking forward to getting back to visit my country after SO long away!

shirley and anthony hide Jul 8th 2021 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 13027488)
With the ever changing rules re CV19 (remember Portugal on green list for just a few weeks). A couple of points.. as there have been some key changes in the past few days.

1. (UK rules) We saw in the UK, rules change for fully NHS vaccinated after July 19 . Even though we are both vax2'd, with UK approved vaccinations (Pfizer) , each have the EU digital covid certificates.... We cant currently travel to the UK with no quarantine after July 19, as Belgian residents. My UK passport wont help me, even though I meet exactly the same entrance criteria. The new rules are for those who have been NHS vaccinated only. (I hope that changes asap)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-ambe...tering-england

2. (EU rules) At about the same time the EU put both Spain and Portugal on the RED list.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/e...p-travel-ecdc/

Whilst things have changed post Brexit, the SCIENCE behind this should be common. Travel is a risk first, then we have to check the entry requirements for 3 countries... As well as the exit from them depending on which way you are going, including, for example, the delay post vax2 to be considered fully vaccinated. (With the exception if flying into Seville and staying in Spain..... Then looking at the then current situation at the bridge for visits to PT)

:goodpost:To Ken and Tina to show all this complexity excellently in practice (and cost).... Post 2

Jon
PS Grant Schapps just said he 'hopes' that residents of non UK countries, with good certification of having had 2 WHO-approved vaccines, will in "short order" be allowed in quarantine-free, when pressed he suggested a 2 week timeframe to decision. I'm looking forward to getting back to visit my country after SO long away!

It's a minefield ,having to go through more hoops than Michael Jordan ,just to travel anywhere,and to get back as well . Nice relaxing holiday .not.
Plus the next pandemic will be a plague of rhinitis ,caused by millions of swabs being stuck up noses for testing.
But let's be positive. Or should that negative . I don't know anymore !!!

mark donna Jul 8th 2021 9:06 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN (Post 13027412)
Ken, Tina and Mark, thank you very much for all this info
I am sure I will be posting again soon as I still have a few niggles to sort 🤔

one thing I will add when we got to Faro passport control I had took snapshots of the QR code for NHS vaccine and presented them on my phone to the customs officer. Big problem Portuguese passport control do not have a QR code scanner so took us a while to sort 4g and get on to nhs website to prove we had been double jabbed. Officer said in future bring paper copies of everything so I would say before you go print out your vaccine certs PCR negative cert and your Portuguese locator form this will speed up the process of getting through passport control.

MKABZ Jul 8th 2021 10:14 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 
Mel & John,
There is no requirement to book your days 2 & 8 tests before leaving the UK. The new information circulating is that only one test will be required after the 19th (for England), still to be confirmed.
For the PLF we put n/a in the address section and for the post code we put in zeros, using the same format as the post code. No one at Faro Airport asked to see our PLF, we showed nothing other than our passports.
We plan to use a clinic in VRSA for out departure test, haven't looked into the cost etc yet. They can be done at Faro airport but possibly cost more.
Mary.

growinspain Jul 8th 2021 10:42 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027514)
It's a minefield ,having to go through more hoops than Michael Jordan ,just to travel anywhere,and to get back as well . Nice relaxing holiday .not.

As an amber country why are you not following your government advice and stay away? For a holiday??

shirley and anthony hide Jul 8th 2021 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13027542)
As an amber country why are you not following your government advice and stay away? For a holiday??

Thanks for the advice
I have a house there that I have not been able to get to for 18 months.
So need to see if it's still standing for one thing .

Does that answer your question .??

MKABZ Jul 8th 2021 11:35 pm

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027546)
Thanks for the advice
I have a house there that I have not been able to get to for 18 months.
So need to see if it's still standing for one thing .

Does that answer your question .??

Assuming you are travelling after the 19th July, the following applies.
"The government currently advises people not to travel to amber destinations, but this will change from 19 July."
Even if travelling before that - we did -, it is "advice" not law!!!
Enjoy your holiday when it comes. :thumb:
Mary.

growinspain Jul 8th 2021 11:47 pm

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027546)
Thanks for the advice
I have a house there that I have not been able to get to for 18 months.
So need to see if it's still standing for one thing .

Does that answer your question .??

It answers that you are taking an unnecessary risk and not following your government advice.

I am sure in your area there are many bonded, trustworthy key holders or businesses that will periodically check your home for you, take the post in, etc...

shirley and anthony hide Jul 8th 2021 11:52 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13027559)
It answers that you are taking an unnecessary risk and not following your government advice.

I am sure in your area there are many bonded, trustworthy key holders or businesses that will periodically check your home for you, take the post in, etc...

You take a risk every time you wake up in the morning and walk out your front door my friend.
As for following Government advice . It is just that ,advice, not law .

growinspain Jul 8th 2021 11:57 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 
I use the back door and tend to listen to people who give advice that are smarter than me on the subject and have my best interests in mind.

shirley and anthony hide Jul 9th 2021 12:28 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13027564)
I use the back door and tend to listen to people who give advice that are smarter than me on the subject and have my best interests in mind.

I take your point .
But the Spanish government is welcoming people from abroad who have been double vaccinated . They are also smarter than you and I ,
It's really discombobulating isn't it .

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027514)
It's a minefield ,having to go through more hoops than Michael Jordan ,just to travel anywhere,and to get back as well . Nice relaxing holiday .not.
Plus the next pandemic will be a plague of rhinitis ,caused by millions of swabs being stuck up noses for testing.
But let's be positive. Or should that negative . I don't know anymore !!!

Made me smile ....positive/negative !!
We have not been to our home there since 2019 and although our friend pops in we need to check it ourselves and we have jobs to do. Additionally, like all our us with holiday homes there and bank accounts, we need to make an appt at the bank as that is a requirement to check and update details, It will also be a holiday but with a home there we do all pay taxes IBI and EUC, the standing charges for utilities we are not using etc.so I am so happy our govt is allowing us to go and Spain and Portugal are happy to welcome us. Booked our flights at a very reasonable price with Ryanair and we follow the rules with vaccine etc. SO, anyone who is going, been or already there HAVE FUN !!

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 1:29 am

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Originally Posted by MKABZ (Post 13027537)
Mel & John,
There is no requirement to book your days 2 & 8 tests before leaving the UK. The new information circulating is that only one test will be required after the 19th (for England), still to be confirmed.
For the PLF we put n/a in the address section and for the post code we put in zeros, using the same format as the post code. No one at Faro Airport asked to see our PLF, we showed nothing other than our passports.
We plan to use a clinic in VRSA for out departure test, haven't looked into the cost etc yet. They can be done at Faro airport but possibly cost more.
Mary.

Thanks Mary, appreciate your post. That would save a bit to only have the one test which would be the case if both Portugal and Spain turned green. Good PLF advice too !
Yes, I am looking into the VSRA clinic too, there is a web site and there is an English option
If either of us, or anyone else on the forum, gets all the info let's post it here to help each other out

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 1:32 am

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Originally Posted by mark donna (Post 13027531)
one thing I will add when we got to Faro passport control I had took snapshots of the QR code for NHS vaccine and presented them on my phone to the customs officer. Big problem Portuguese passport control do not have a QR code scanner so took us a while to sort 4g and get on to nhs website to prove we had been double jabbed. Officer said in future bring paper copies of everything so I would say before you go print out your vaccine certs PCR negative cert and your Portuguese locator form this will speed up the process of getting through passport control.

EXCELLENT advice !!! Thank you for this. I have the NHS on my phone but have requested paper copies foe proof of the double vaccines. I will make sure I have paper copies of all the info. Thank you

MKABZ Jul 9th 2021 1:34 am

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Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN (Post 13027595)
Thanks Mary, appreciate your post. That would save a bit to only have the one test which would be the case if both Portugal and Spain turned green. Good PLF advice too !
Yes, I am looking into the VSRA clinic too, there is a web site and there is an English option
If either of us, or anyone else on the forum, gets all the info let's post it here to help each other out

No problem. Just to add - the government (English) are also talking about doing away with the amber list, so there will only be green and red, hopefully neither Spain or Portugal go on to red, Spain's cases are going up quite a bit.
We plan to go into the clinic next time we are in VRSA, so if I get any info. I shall let you know.
Mary.

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 1:41 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 13027488)
With the ever changing rules re CV19 (remember Portugal on green list for just a few weeks). A couple of points.. as there have been some key changes in the past few days.

1. (UK rules) We saw in the UK, rules change for fully NHS vaccinated after July 19 . Even though we are both vax2'd, with UK approved vaccinations (Pfizer) , each have the EU digital covid certificates.... We cant currently travel to the UK with no quarantine after July 19, as Belgian residents. My UK passport wont help me, even though I meet exactly the same entrance criteria. The new rules are for those who have been NHS vaccinated only. (I hope that changes asap)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-ambe...tering-england

2. (EU rules) At about the same time the EU put both Spain and Portugal on the RED list.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/e...p-travel-ecdc/

Whilst things have changed post Brexit, the SCIENCE behind this should be common. Travel is a risk first, then we have to check the entry requirements for 3 countries... As well as the exit from them depending on which way you are going, including, for example, the delay post vax2 to be considered fully vaccinated. (With the exception if flying into Seville and staying in Spain..... Then looking at the then current situation at the bridge for visits to PT)

:goodpost:To Ken and Tina to show all this complexity excellently in practice (and cost).... Post 2

Note that there (may) be different criteria for (e.g) air travel and road travel

Whilst we have different systems UK/EU I think its handy to keep an eye on both as the source data must be similar.. its only how that data is translated that is a tad different

Sorry to be 'negative' but I believe there (just) might be a chance and we turn RED over here in ES and PT. Its now turned RED, since arriving, in our case (EU) .... staying AMBER for UK .... But things often change.

In our case we are here for a while so will wait a bit before planning our return to get the latest news, and entry/exit criteria. We are driving, so must cross the ES-FR border, then the FR-BE one, and would normally want to stay a night in France.

Jon
PS Grant Schapps just said he 'hopes' that residents of non UK countries, with good certification of having had 2 WHO-approved vaccines, will in "short order" be allowed in quarantine-free, when pressed he suggested a 2 week timeframe to decision. I'm looking forward to getting back to visit my country after SO long away!

Thanks Jon for your post and comments - always, always good info from you. Hope you and Catherine are enjoying yourselves there and can relax as you had a mad dash home last time as many did.
Yes, that's it things may change and we are unable to anticipate what will happen so just hope changes are for the better.
I have never been to Spain in Aug before - avoided the school holidays and the much dearer flights but flights are cheap and if we don't go next month it may be Oct before we could get away. Kinno is ok as retired now but I am still working to keep him in the style he has become accustomed to HA HA !! SOOO, I am restricted with leave and availability and with working I could not book flights if we had to self isolate on return.
Cannot wait to go !!

shirley and anthony hide Jul 9th 2021 1:46 am

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Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN (Post 13027596)
EXCELLENT advice !!! Thank you for this. I have the NHS on my phone but have requested paper copies foe proof of the double vaccines. I will make sure I have paper copies of all the info. Thank you


If anyone knows somewhere in Ayamonte that will print off the PCR negative test results from I phone etc as it is probably sent by email .Could be useful info
l
Would likely save some time at the airport fiddling with phone trying to find said email.
​
Also on the NHS hard copy it's only valid for a set number of days ,so check it didn't expire before you go

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 6:23 am

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027608)
If anyone knows somewhere in Ayamonte that will print off the PCR negative test results from I phone etc as it is probably sent by email .Could be useful info
l
Would likely save some time at the airport fiddling with phone trying to find said email.
​
Also on the NHS hard copy it's only valid for a set number of days ,so check it didn't expire before you go

Heck, so much to think about to check all is correct. Good points. There was a place in Ayamonte where you could print.I can visualise it but could not give directions
Is this the NHS letter confirming you've been double jabbed? Surely that doesn't expire .....they would just be creating extra work constantly sending out letters. Have I misunderstand?
Thanks Mel

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027608)
If anyone knows somewhere in Ayamonte that will print off the PCR negative test results from I phone etc as it is probably sent by email .Could be useful info
l
Would likely save some time at the airport fiddling with phone trying to find said email.
​
Also on the NHS hard copy it's only valid for a set number of days ,so check it didn't expire before you go

Heck, so much to think about to check all is correct. Good points. There was a place in Ayamonte where you could print.I can visualise it but could not give directions
Is this the NHS letter confirming you've been double jabbed? Surely that doesn't expire .....they would just be creating extra work constantly sending out letters. Have I misunderstood?
Thanks Mel

shirley and anthony hide Jul 9th 2021 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN (Post 13027728)
Heck, so much to think about to check all is correct. Good points. There was a place in Ayamonte where you could print.I can visualise it but could not give directions
Is this the NHS letter confirming you've been double jabbed? Surely that doesn't expire .....they would just be creating extra work constantly sending out letters. Have I misunderstood?
Thanks Mel

The nhs app let's you download a hard copy of you r vaccine details for printing or can send you an email with the an attachment so you can print it later.
either way the hard copy has an expiration date I think 1 month from the request .
You can download the copy as many times in the future you need
I sent myself the email as my phone isn't connected to a printer , and opened the email from my laptop and printed from there.
The letter said the barcode printed on it is only valid till 31 July and I am going on August
So will wait till letter covers my departure date

MEL & JOHN Jul 9th 2021 8:12 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027754)
The nhs app let's you download a hard copy of you r vaccine details for printing or can send you an email with the an attachment so you can print it later.
either way the hard copy has an expiration date I think 1 month from the request .
You can download the copy as many times in the future you need
I sent myself the email as my phone isn't connected to a printer , and opened the email from my laptop and printed from there.
The letter said the barcode printed on it is only valid till 31 July and I am going on August
So will wait till letter covers my departure date

Very glad you posted this and it's exactly the info I and others need so we can get all our paperwork right to travel.
All the best Mel

EsuriJohn Jul 9th 2021 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13027608)
If anyone knows somewhere in Ayamonte that will print off the PCR negative test results from I phone etc as it is probably sent by email .Could be useful info
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Would likely save some time at the airport fiddling with phone trying to find said email.
​
Also on the NHS hard copy it's only valid for a set number of days ,so check it didn't expire before you go

The best Print shop in Ayamonte is Papilaria opposite the steps into the municipal offices just off Laguna Square. You can email what you want printed the call in and they will print off to your requirement while you wait about 3 or 4 mins.
email address is:-

[email protected]

shirley and anthony hide Jul 9th 2021 5:08 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 13027775)
The best Print shop in Ayamonte is Papilaria opposite the steps into the municipal offices just off Laguna Square. You can email what you want printed the call in and they will print off to your requirement while you wait about 3 or 4 mins.
email address is:-

[email protected]

Thanks for that John , much appreciated .

Jon-Bxl Jul 9th 2021 6:35 pm

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I have a laser printer. I bought the smallest/cheapest one, several years ago. Inkjet cartridges dry out, whereas lasers don't. They last years. ​​​​​Sometimes a gentle shake helps if it hasn't been used for months. With our sort of usage, its the only home-printing situation.

My computer blew up recently, but I bought an app for my smartphone (android) called Printershare for 7-8Eur. I plug a small OTG adapter in the phone's USB port, the other end is a female USB that I plug the printers lead to. First time it installs the driver for the printer then off you go.

I printed our 'Covid passports' recently....

I would always recommend having a hard copy of any important document e.g boarding passes, vax-certificates etc, even if they are on the phone. The docs are just too important to have e.g a flat battery or fault kibosh your plans.

Jon

Jon-Bxl Jul 9th 2021 6:56 pm

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Be aware that cases are really rising in Europe. Parts of the Algarve have instigated a vax-certificate to enter restos, and weekend curfews. Take any vax certificate in the back-pocket 'just in case' .. Were taking ours today for a friends birthday bash in a PT resto.

Of course Spain and Portugal went recently red on the EU's map.... After we arrived.

With cases rising, countries who dont have the excellent vaccination numbers of the UK, may well change their border entry rules. International travel risks and restrictions will probably increase over time in line with this.
I recommend checking out the official government sites for entry/exit rules, best from the 'horses mouth'

The UK is really going 'against the international grain' with 'freedom day' ... But the vax programme is showing that the link of case rate vs death rate is pretty much broken. Phew! But it may not be the case for some other countries less vaccinated.

One day we will be able to travel freely again...we need it!

Jon
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/b...t-molenberghs/

shirley and anthony hide Jul 10th 2021 12:30 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 13027844)
I have a laser printer. I bought the smallest/cheapest one, several years ago. Inkjet cartridges dry out, whereas lasers don't. They last years. ​​​​​Sometimes a gentle shake helps if it hasn't been used for months. With our sort of usage, its the only home-

Jon


Oh Dear !

You shouldn’t have mentioned you’ve got a printer Jon.
There is probably a queue outside your front door already .

del.Almendro Jul 10th 2021 7:28 am

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We arrived here in El Almendro (North of Ayamonte) a week ago having flown into Faro. We are due to return by the same route in 10 days time and will have the necessary recent antigen test results to allow us to enter Portugal and fly back to the UK.

It would be good to visit PT for lunch and/or beach while we are here but, as UK citizens, the rules appear to prevent that, unless we have fresh negative antigen tests done here in Spain before driving over the international bridge. Presumably 14 days quarantine in PT would likely be imposed if we were stopped at a random border check. That would be some long lunch!

MEL & JOHN Jul 10th 2021 7:37 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 13027775)
The best Print shop in Ayamonte is Papilaria opposite the steps into the municipal offices just off Laguna Square. You can email what you want printed the call in and they will print off to your requirement while you wait about 3 or 4 mins.
email address is:-

[email protected]

Thank you very much John

MEL & JOHN Jul 10th 2021 7:40 am

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by del.Almendro (Post 13028027)
We arrived here in El Almendro (North of Ayamonte) a week ago having flown into Faro. We are due to return by the same route in 10 days time and will have the necessary recent antigen test results to allow us to enter Portugal and fly back to the UK.

It would be good to visit PT for lunch and/or beach while we are here but, as UK citizens, the rules appear to prevent that, unless we have fresh negative antigen tests done here in Spain before driving over the international bridge. Presumably 14 days quarantine in PT would likely be imposed if we were stopped at a random border check. That would be some long lunch!

Hiya, does that also apply if you are double vaccinated?
Thank you
Mel

del.Almendro Jul 10th 2021 7:07 pm

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Yes, to enter PT as an EU non-resident you must be double-jabbed and have a fresh negative Covid test. This applies to all arrivals, whether by air, sea, rail or road.

To enter Spain from PT is simpler as no test required.

shirley and anthony hide Jul 10th 2021 8:32 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by del.Almendro (Post 13028123)
Yes, to enter PT as an EU non-resident you must be double-jabbed and have a fresh negative Covid test. This applies to all arrivals, whether by air, sea, rail or road.

To enter Spain from PT is simpler as no test required.

Had anyone seen border patrois at the bridge since the land borders were reopened in early June ?
If not ,then it looks like this is a technicality rather than a strict rule.
If they do stop you , I'm guessing you would be turned back to Spain anyway.


MKABZ Jul 10th 2021 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by del.Almendro (Post 13028123)
Yes, to enter PT as an EU non-resident you must be double-jabbed and have a fresh negative Covid test. This applies to all arrivals, whether by air, sea, rail or road.

To enter Spain from PT is simpler as no test required.

According to the VisitPortugal website -
"2) Arriving to Portugal by Road

No restrictions of entrance, except for citizens coming from Brazil, India, Nepal, and South Africa in the last 14 days, only for essential travel:
  •  
    •  
      • Must comply 14-day quarantine period at home or at a place indicated by the health authorities;
      • Must register before entering the country at https://travel.sef.pt
Passengers from the UK
  •  
    •  
      • Comply with 14 days of prophylactic isolation on arrival in Portugal, or
        Have complete vaccination for 14 days.
      • Children and young people that are yet to complete 18 years old at the time of their departure flight are exempt from quarantine as long as they travel accompanied by their parents, parent or responsible adult that are fully vaccinated/immunised as per EU directives
        * Children under 12 years old are exempt of testing requirements
        * Young people from 12 to 18 years old must comply with testing requirements
      • Passengers required to undergo prophylactic isolation must register at https://travel.sef.pt
https://www.visitportugal.com/en/con...ented-portugal

It also states changes may be made on the 11th July (today).
Mary.

MKABZ Jul 10th 2021 8:37 pm

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Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 13028131)
Had anyone seen border patrois at the bridge since the land borders were reopened in early June ?
If not ,then it looks like this is a technicality rather than a strict rule.
If they do stop you , I'm guessing you would be turned back to Spain anyway.

There have been no checks on the bridge in the time we have been here.
Mary

Jon-Bxl Jul 10th 2021 9:07 pm

Re: COVID RULES
 

Originally Posted by del.Almendro (Post 13028123)
Yes, to enter PT as an EU non-resident you must be double-jabbed and have a fresh negative Covid test. This applies to all arrivals, whether by air, sea, rail or road.

To enter Spain from PT is simpler as no test required.

All cross-border travel is a risk these days. There is a good strong argument to stay at home.

I will say that there are no checks at the bridge that I have seen... We go to PT a lot. My friend who lives in PT comes to ES most days (and has been since borders opened) has never been checked either way.

If they (PT) turn you back at the border you return to your Spanish home .. At the moment the (ES) are not checking as no test is required. So returning to the ES home is less problematic.

So as long as you know the risks, its your decision as to what you do, and are thus prepared for any consequences, without complaint.

Jon




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