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Old Dec 15th 2016, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl
One can buy various wallets that are RFID-hack proof.

I had one of those neat hard sided ones, just bigger than a credit card, available everywhere, RFID protected. Holding about 10 cards and some folded notes, hinged.

However, beware, they are shiny! And as such can easily slide/slip out of the pocket. When I see a rubberised one, I may switch back. I didn't buy it for RFID, as for me it was a handy little thing to carry about with the basics inside.... and protected the cards from snapping.
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Put a stout elastic band around it......
(the wallet!) It wont slip out of your pocket then.
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Old Dec 16th 2016, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by jonboy
Put a stout elastic band around it......
(the wallet!) It wont slip out of your pocket then.
Thanks for the good laugh! I really don't want it slipping out of my pocket!

I bet you are a wiz with 'sticky back plastic' too!

I actually really liked it and even bought a little zipped leather 'purse' to put it into, but unzipping, then getting it out, proved to be a hassle, as would putting a large* stout rubber band around it

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Old Dec 16th 2016, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl
Thanks for the good laugh! I really don't want it slipping out of my pocket!

I bet you are a wiz with 'sticky back plastic' too!

I actually really liked it and even bought a little zipped leather 'purse' to put it into, but unzipping, then getting it out, proved to be a hassle, as would putting a large* stout rubber band around it

Jon (*the dreamer .... of having a large wallet that is!! )

Jon, you can get nice smart leather ones too ( I have one)
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Old Dec 16th 2016, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by MikeJ
Jon, you can get nice smart leather ones too ( I have one)
Thanks Mike. As you are in the know about all this, and have decided to have one for security - it makes me want to consider this too.

Hey as its Christmas, maybe I can put it on my list to Santa

Merry Christmas to 'you and yours' - and a happy, and healthy New Year

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Old Dec 16th 2016, 12:26 pm
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When I first recived mine I made a shield (same as the Which one) from kitchen foil folded a number of times so it ended up just a bit bigger than a 50 note, this lives in the outer section of my wallet with nothing else.
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Old Dec 16th 2016, 1:09 pm
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Hola

I find it interesting that in all the pages of replies, no-one has asked their bank for a non-contactless card, but many have sought to circumvent the RFID properties.

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Old Dec 16th 2016, 1:50 pm
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Hola

I find it interesting that in all the pages of replies, no-one has asked their bank for a non-contactless card, but many have sought to circumvent the RFID properties.

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Didn't you say yourself, in your opening post, that there is no alternative?

My bank (Deutsche) is going to issue contactless cards from now on. After a chat with the local bank manager, there are no options except take it or leave it.
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Dave,
a quick Google reveals Santander gives you the option of having a card that isn't contactless.
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Old Dec 17th 2016, 6:52 am
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Dave,
a quick Google reveals Santander gives you the option of having a card that isn't contactless.
Hola

Thank you for that - I'll check when I return home to the Cádiz region

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Old Dec 18th 2016, 2:30 pm
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At the end of the day a contactless card is far far less vulnerable than cash, which is easily stolen and is immediately negotiable.

Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.
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Old Dec 18th 2016, 2:50 pm
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How do the phone apps work eg Android pay?

I have avoided downloading the app as I really cannot see the point but are these as vulnerable as a contactless card (I have several of those).

I was also in a pub on Friday and a guy paid using his watch!
Much too much technology for me.
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Old Dec 18th 2016, 4:26 pm
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Default Re: Contactless cards (RFID)

Originally Posted by MikeJ
At the end of the day a contactless card is far far less vulnerable than cash, which is easily stolen and is immediately negotiable.

Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.


After 3 pages of cr*p someone talks some sense. Any and all cards are much safer than cash.

End of.
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Old Dec 19th 2016, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by frigilianafreddy


After 3 pages of cr*p someone talks some sense. Any and all cards are much safer than cash.

End of.

I agree that Mike's post was good and as usual, informative.

However I disagree that its been 3 pages of lets say rubbish.

Also I was interested to read that Mike has a wallet that is RFID protected, I mentioned earlier that there are various ones out there, and I had one as well. As a result Im thinking about getting another one, a different model, though the risks seem low. So the discussion has been useful.

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Old Dec 19th 2016, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by frigilianafreddy


After 3 pages of cr*p someone talks some sense. Any and all cards are much safer than cash.

End of.
Such a harsh comment, I almost reached for my elastic band! fortunately Jon-Bxl got in first and defused the situation. Elastic bands do not grow on trees you know. well not unless you have a rubber tree, that is.
All the best for the festive season frigilianafreddy
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Originally Posted by mrken30
and only so many transactions per day
I shopped in Tesco, fueled up at the Tesco petrol station thev dropped in to my local off licence...my card was refused. I phoned the bank who told me that three transaction in a few minutes was flagged as suspicious and the account had been put on hold.

I answered security questions and the card was taken off hold.

So I feel very safe using these cards.

Out of the UK I tend to use pre paid Visa cards.
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