Contactless cards (RFID)
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
One can buy various wallets that are RFID-hack proof.
I had one of those neat hard sided ones, just bigger than a credit card, available everywhere, RFID protected. Holding about 10 cards and some folded notes, hinged.
However, beware, they are shiny! And as such can easily slide/slip out of the pocket. When I see a rubberised one, I may switch back. I didn't buy it for RFID, as for me it was a handy little thing to carry about with the basics inside.... and protected the cards from snapping.
Jon
I had one of those neat hard sided ones, just bigger than a credit card, available everywhere, RFID protected. Holding about 10 cards and some folded notes, hinged.
However, beware, they are shiny! And as such can easily slide/slip out of the pocket. When I see a rubberised one, I may switch back. I didn't buy it for RFID, as for me it was a handy little thing to carry about with the basics inside.... and protected the cards from snapping.
Jon
(the wallet!) It wont slip out of your pocket then.
#32
Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
I bet you are a wiz with 'sticky back plastic' too!
I actually really liked it and even bought a little zipped leather 'purse' to put it into, but unzipping, then getting it out, proved to be a hassle, as would putting a large* stout rubber band around it
Jon (*the dreamer .... of having a large wallet that is!! )
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#33
Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
Thanks for the good laugh! I really don't want it slipping out of my pocket!
I bet you are a wiz with 'sticky back plastic' too!
I actually really liked it and even bought a little zipped leather 'purse' to put it into, but unzipping, then getting it out, proved to be a hassle, as would putting a large* stout rubber band around it
Jon (*the dreamer .... of having a large wallet that is!! )
I bet you are a wiz with 'sticky back plastic' too!
I actually really liked it and even bought a little zipped leather 'purse' to put it into, but unzipping, then getting it out, proved to be a hassle, as would putting a large* stout rubber band around it
Jon (*the dreamer .... of having a large wallet that is!! )
Jon, you can get nice smart leather ones too ( I have one)
#34
Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
Thanks Mike. As you are in the know about all this, and have decided to have one for security - it makes me want to consider this too.
Hey as its Christmas, maybe I can put it on my list to Santa
Merry Christmas to 'you and yours' - and a happy, and healthy New Year
Jon
Hey as its Christmas, maybe I can put it on my list to Santa
Merry Christmas to 'you and yours' - and a happy, and healthy New Year
Jon
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
When I first recived mine I made a shield (same as the Which one) from kitchen foil folded a number of times so it ended up just a bit bigger than a 50 note, this lives in the outer section of my wallet with nothing else.
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
Hola
I find it interesting that in all the pages of replies, no-one has asked their bank for a non-contactless card, but many have sought to circumvent the RFID properties.
Davexf
I find it interesting that in all the pages of replies, no-one has asked their bank for a non-contactless card, but many have sought to circumvent the RFID properties.
Davexf
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
Didn't you say yourself, in your opening post, that there is no alternative?
My bank (Deutsche) is going to issue contactless cards from now on. After a chat with the local bank manager, there are no options except take it or leave it.
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
Dave,
a quick Google reveals Santander gives you the option of having a card that isn't contactless.
a quick Google reveals Santander gives you the option of having a card that isn't contactless.
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At the end of the day a contactless card is far far less vulnerable than cash, which is easily stolen and is immediately negotiable.
Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.
Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
How do the phone apps work eg Android pay?
I have avoided downloading the app as I really cannot see the point but are these as vulnerable as a contactless card (I have several of those).
I was also in a pub on Friday and a guy paid using his watch!
Much too much technology for me.
I have avoided downloading the app as I really cannot see the point but are these as vulnerable as a contactless card (I have several of those).
I was also in a pub on Friday and a guy paid using his watch!
Much too much technology for me.
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Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
At the end of the day a contactless card is far far less vulnerable than cash, which is easily stolen and is immediately negotiable.
Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.
Without additional corroborating information (ie Name, billing address, CVC and/or account number none of which are held electronically on the card) then the max amount stealable in a single transaction is around £30. The number of transactions before a PIN transaction is mandated depends on the card's 'velocity counters' and issuer's anti-fraud systems (which are confidential and comprehensive). The chances of large scale fraud (although theoretically possible) for the average user are vanishingly small. And the bank/issuer will compensate.
After 3 pages of cr*p someone talks some sense. Any and all cards are much safer than cash.
End of.
#43
Re: Contactless cards (RFID)
I agree that Mike's post was good and as usual, informative.
However I disagree that its been 3 pages of lets say rubbish.
Also I was interested to read that Mike has a wallet that is RFID protected, I mentioned earlier that there are various ones out there, and I had one as well. As a result Im thinking about getting another one, a different model, though the risks seem low. So the discussion has been useful.
Jon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref...t&sprefix=rfid
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All the best for the festive season frigilianafreddy
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I shopped in Tesco, fueled up at the Tesco petrol station thev dropped in to my local off licence...my card was refused. I phoned the bank who told me that three transaction in a few minutes was flagged as suspicious and the account had been put on hold.
I answered security questions and the card was taken off hold.
So I feel very safe using these cards.
Out of the UK I tend to use pre paid Visa cards.
I answered security questions and the card was taken off hold.
So I feel very safe using these cards.
Out of the UK I tend to use pre paid Visa cards.