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Chiclanagir Apr 23rd 2006 4:55 am

Chiclana
 
Possibly of interest.
Today, Sunday, I had a visit from two men from the Council telling me that I needed to pay my rubbish tax. They filled in a form stating that last years was due for 156 euros plus another 28 euros for the last two months and that it would then be due every other month. I don't mind paying but I thought this would have been included in my rates when the council eventually got around to telling us what they will be. At least it made us feel a little more legal!!!

Also Eroski is opening at Hipersol in May. I presume they will close at some stage for the change over. Champion is now closed and will re-open as Carrefour.

There is due to be a new roundabout on what we locally call the bumpy road between the Coca Cola factory and the road to Medina.

Today is horrible, feels like a wet Sunday at home but can't go to Marks to cheer myself up!

poollounger Apr 23rd 2006 5:51 am

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It's a wet Sunday here in London Glynis, and was so up in Leicester where I drove back from today. Hope it gets sunny next week when I get out on Weds. Have a garden to sort out !! A nice post to keep us upto date on happenings in Chiclana. I had an e-mail from another forumite who finally had a temporary legal meter saying her neighbours were cut off when she was there over Easter, as were others. Hope you are OK.

Chiclanagir Apr 23rd 2006 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by poollounger
It's a wet Sunday here in London Glynis, and was so up in Leicester where I drove back from today. Hope it gets sunny next week when I get out on Weds. Have a garden to sort out !! A nice post to keep us upto date on happenings in Chiclana. I had an e-mail from another forumite who finally had a temporary legal meter saying her neighbours were cut off when she was there over Easter, as were others. Hope you are OK.

But it's supposed to rain in the UK, it's not supposed to rain here!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting about the cut offs, didn't know it had started again. Which area does the formite live in?

Also, to show the difference in Chiclana. We have just had a horse appear outside out house. We are a dead end and the grass has grown as "big as an elephant's eye" Think I've got that quote from Oklaholma right. So someone has decided to leave their horse there as a lawn mower. I think it's great, but, the cats and dog are very confused.

CDL Ben Apr 24th 2006 7:57 am

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Originally Posted by glynis
Possibly of interest.
Today, Sunday, I had a visit from two men from the Council telling me that I needed to pay my rubbish tax. They filled in a form stating that last years was due for 156 euros plus another 28 euros for the last two months and that it would then be due every other month. I don't mind paying but I thought this would have been included in my rates when the council eventually got around to telling us what they will be. At least it made us feel a little more legal!!!

Also Eroski is opening at Hipersol in May. I presume they will close at some stage for the change over. Champion is now closed and will re-open as Carrefour.

There is due to be a new roundabout on what we locally call the bumpy road between the Coca Cola factory and the road to Medina.

Today is horrible, feels like a wet Sunday at home but can't go to Marks to cheer myself up!

To briefly answer the question, bin collection is not included in the rates which you pay the council every year and is actually managed and carried out by Chiclana Natural, the water company. The cost you mention seems about right, but I'm surprised they are catching up with people as many get away with not paying and everyone else seems to subsidise those who don't. It's is a good 'feather in the cap' however if you are living in or have an illegal build for obvious reasons, so worth investigating.

poollounger Apr 25th 2006 5:13 am

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Originally Posted by glynis
But it's supposed to rain in the UK, it's not supposed to rain here!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting about the cut offs, didn't know it had started again. Which area does the formite live in?

Also, to show the difference in Chiclana. We have just had a horse appear outside out house. We are a dead end and the grass has grown as "big as an elephant's eye" Think I've got that quote from Oklaholma right. So someone has decided to leave their horse there as a lawn mower. I think it's great, but, the cats and dog are very confused.

I believe she is on the edge of Sancti Petri. It sound great..a horse rather than a Flymo...either that or you've been at the Cava again.

Chiclanagir Apr 25th 2006 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by poollounger
I believe she is on the edge of Sancti Petri. It sound great..a horse rather than a Flymo...either that or you've been at the Cava again.

Drink would never touch my lips! It has difficulty as it goes down the throat too fast!

Did anyone read in the Euro Weekly News that drug smugglers have been bringing in drugs at Sancti Petri?

susique Apr 25th 2006 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by glynis
But it's supposed to rain in the UK, it's not supposed to rain here!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting about the cut offs, didn't know it had started again. Which area does the formite live in?

Also, to show the difference in Chiclana. We have just had a horse appear outside out house. We are a dead end and the grass has grown as "big as an elephant's eye" Think I've got that quote from Oklaholma right. So someone has decided to leave their horse there as a lawn mower. I think it's great, but, the cats and dog are very confused.

Sorry Glynis, its the 'corn that's as high as an elephant's eye'

Chiclanagir Apr 25th 2006 9:02 pm

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Originally Posted by susique
Sorry Glynis, its the 'corn that's as high as an elephant's eye'

Corn/grass what's the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!

susique Apr 25th 2006 9:57 pm

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Originally Posted by glynis
Corn/grass what's the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aargh, youm'baint a faarmer then! (I know I probably spelt all that wrong but you get my drift).... :rolleyes:

dazzle Apr 26th 2006 1:35 am

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Originally Posted by glynis
Interesting about the cut offs, didn't know it had started again. Which area does the formite live in?


I saw Sevillana cutting off supplies in Las Veguetas on the Wednesday before Easter. They were removing the fuses from the poles, not just cutting the wires.

CDL Ben Apr 27th 2006 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by dazzle
I saw Sevillana cutting off supplies in Las Veguetas on the Wednesday before Easter. They were removing the fuses from the poles, not just cutting the wires.

Things just got worse too......Endesa have been found out by the Coucil for supplying meters to unlicenced house via a loophole in the law. They have now closed (or are closing) the hole and it looks like from the end of this year (or before if we are unlucky) that Endesa will no longer accept applications, be able to provide meters or do anything else regarding the supply of meters. Thank your lucky stars if you have one, and if you don't get your application in ASAP (success not guaranteed.)

Douglas jack May 5th 2006 6:34 pm

Re: Chiclana
 

Originally Posted by cdlcaretaking
Things just got worse too......Endesa have been found out by the Coucil for supplying meters to unlicenced house via a loophole in the law. They have now closed (or are closing) the hole and it looks like from the end of this year (or before if we are unlucky) that Endesa will no longer accept applications, be able to provide meters or do anything else regarding the supply of meters. Thank your lucky stars if you have one, and if you don't get your application in ASAP (success not guaranteed.)

Why are the council stopping people from getting legal meters.

dazzle May 5th 2006 7:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas jack
Why are the council stopping people from getting legal meters.

Because the houses were built without the permits required (by law) to obtain electricity. In other words, they're illegally built!

Douglas jack May 5th 2006 7:43 pm

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Originally Posted by dazzle
Because the houses were built without the permits required (by law) to obtain electricity. In other words, they're illegally built!

Thanks for your reply dazzle,so did these properties that, dont have meters go through the notarys office when they were sold.

dazzle May 5th 2006 7:56 pm

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Yes of course and buyers used a Solicitor and many obtained a spanish mortgages on them.

Douglas jack May 5th 2006 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by dazzle
Yes of course and buyers used a Solicitor and many obtained a spanish mortgages on them.

So the notarys office in Chiclana took thier share of the monies having not checked if the houses were on the plan.the solicitors acting for the vendor and the solicitors acting for the purchaser,took their monies knowing that they were selling and buying houses that were illegal,and the council now deny the purchasers access to electricity from the grid.

mitzipurr May 5th 2006 10:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas jack
So the notarys office in Chiclana took thier share of the monies having not checked if the houses were on the plan.the solicitors acting for the vendor and the solicitors acting for the purchaser,took their monies knowing that they were selling and buying houses that were illegal,and the council now deny the purchasers access to electricity from the grid.



Yes I think you have hit the nail on the head :rolleyes:

mitzipurr May 5th 2006 10:45 pm

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[QUOTE=mitzipurr]Yes I think you have hit the nail on the head :rolleyes:[/QUO

Whats more they are still doing it :scared:

Douglas jack May 5th 2006 11:25 pm

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[QUOTE=mitzipurr]

Originally Posted by mitzipurr
Yes I think you have hit the nail on the head :rolleyes:[/QUO

Whats more they are still doing it :scared:

We seem to have two threads running on this any way of putting it alltogether ,does anybody know the numbers of people who dont have legal meters,and if the practice is still going on as you say why are they the council not being stopped from doing it surelly they know the trouble they and the solicitors are causing.

mitzipurr May 6th 2006 12:59 am

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[QUOTE=Douglas jack]

Originally Posted by mitzipurr
We seem to have two threads running on this any way of putting it alltogether ,does anybody know the numbers of people who dont have legal meters,and if the practice is still going on as you say why are they the council not being stopped from doing it surelly they know the trouble they and the solicitors are causing.


Over the last three months in my quest to buy a property in Chiclana only once in viewing over 50 properties was I shown one that had its own electric meter for that house only! Most new build villas have no planning permission have been built on land divided in a questionable way. This is how it works. One plot with old finca of lets say 2000meters knock old finca down and subdivide this in to 500 plots construct 4 new houses and run them all with the old fincas legal meter (counter in other three). Then green as grass foreigner comes along and buys lovely new illegal villa with his life savings trusting dodgy estate agent and solicitor and bingo vast profit for builder. Council does b----r all to put a stop to it so situation continues so all the parasites involved in this scam get richer at the expense of totally innocent people. Mind you the council are good at funding and constructing the brand new no expenses spared "Gerencia Muncipal de Urbanismo" which is completely out of charcter with any nearby buildings and the rest of Chiclana center which is a lovely old town. :rolleyes:

Chiclanagir May 6th 2006 11:25 pm

Re: Chiclana
 
We had a visit from our builder last week. He brought a chap with him who took photos of the house and asked for our bank details and a copy of my passport. Does this mean a meter may be on its way!!! Also Telefonica turned up and said our neighbour could have a phone provided he dug the road up and installed all the cabling himself. Luckily he is an ex- BT engineer and so was able to but how many other people would have that knowledge.

poollounger May 7th 2006 2:22 am

Re: Chiclana
 

Originally Posted by glynis
We had a visit from our builder last week. He brought a chap with him who took photos of the house and asked for our bank details and a copy of my passport. Does this mean a meter may be on its way!!! Also Telefonica turned up and said our neighbour could have a phone provided he dug the road up and installed all the cabling himself. Luckily he is an ex- BT engineer and so was able to but how many other people would have that knowledge.

Glynis when we were over last week there was a notice on our garden wall saying they were installing telephone and broadband access lines in the area and gave a telephone number..this is in Pago del Humo. We made a note for future reference, but I can private you the number if you are interested.

Mourinho May 7th 2006 4:20 am

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On the shop front , Hipersol opens as Eroski on May 16 , Champion Supermarket opposite MCD'S will now be a do it yourself store Briocking

susique May 7th 2006 5:27 am

Re: Chiclana
 

Originally Posted by poollounger
Glynis when we were over last week there was a notice on our garden wall saying they were installing telephone and broadband access lines in the area and gave a telephone number..this is in Pago del Humo. We made a note for future reference, but I can private you the number if you are interested.

Dear Poollounger

Please can I have this telephone number re boradband and telephone?

Got all excited at Easter when Telefonica came round to install ours but everything stopped when they were unable to hang the cable across our neighbours garden.

Send a private message if you wish.

Thanks

susique May 7th 2006 5:28 am

Re: Chiclana
 

Originally Posted by poollounger
Glynis when we were over last week there was a notice on our garden wall saying they were installing telephone and broadband access lines in the area and gave a telephone number..this is in Pago del Humo. We made a note for future reference, but I can private you the number if you are interested.

Dear Poollounger

Please can I have this telephone number re broadband and telephone?

Got all excited at Easter when Telefonica came round to install ours but everything stopped when they were unable to hang the cable across our neighbours garden.

Send a private message if you wish.

Thanks

Douglas jack May 7th 2006 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by Mourinho
On the shop front , Hipersol opens as Eroski on May 16 , Champion Supermarket opposite MCD'S will now be a do it yourself store Briocking

.HI Mourinho,somebody posted that Champion was to become a Carafour was this misinformation or has something changed.

Mourinho May 8th 2006 6:05 am

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Originally Posted by Douglas jack
.HI Mourinho,somebody posted that Champion was to become a Carafour was this misinformation or has something changed.


It may have been an option ,you know how gossip goes , but is now confirmed as a DIY store .

Chiclanagir May 8th 2006 6:42 am

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Thanks for that Steve but next door now have a phone. Apparently if you dig the road yourself and install the cable, Telefonica will connect, which they did. At last a success story. Now the cable can go all the way down the road to connect all the neighbours.


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