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bfg69bug Mar 17th 2006 8:14 am

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 
its about 12% isn´t it ?

Costa-Convert Mar 17th 2006 8:17 am

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 
12% is what I will have to pay to transfer the plates are you sure? I thought if you have owned the car for a certain length of time there was no duty to pay anyway?

If I have to pay then so be it but I would rather not and that does seem a bit steep.

Arco-Iris Mar 17th 2006 9:24 am

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 

Originally Posted by Costa-Convert
Works ok for me, do you have adobe reader?

What is this list telling me anyway I have found my car and the valour is 19,800 how do I know what I will have to pay?


As far as I know, it will be 4% of the fiscal value. Maybe this varies from provincia to provincia (like the road tax) so best check with your Hacienda.

bfg69bug Mar 17th 2006 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by Arco-Iris
Here is a link http://servicios4.jcyl.es/iguia/fuen...iculos2006.pdf

that will tell you the value placed on vehicles: the tax is a percentage of that.

when i get it to work.. :( what percentage of it is it, any ideas ?

pwwm Mar 17th 2006 11:36 pm

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12% of the new car price for over 1600cc and 7% for under, then it reduces yearly after that, so older the car the bigger the saving.
Car tax works same way re engine sizes. Not age.

pwwm

bfg69bug Mar 18th 2006 12:03 pm

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 

Originally Posted by pwwm
12% of the new car price for over 1600cc and 7% for under, then it reduces yearly after that, so older the car the bigger the saving.
Car tax works same way re engine sizes. Not age.

pwwm

whooooohooooooooo if it reduces every year hopefully they will pay me ;) lol

anyone got a "working" copy of that pdf ?? :(

un-mundo Mar 18th 2006 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug
whooooohooooooooo if it reduces every year hopefully they will pay me ;) lol

anyone got a "working" copy of that pdf ?? :(

Download adobe, it takes just a couple of minutes and is a pretty essential tool if you use the internet for more than a few minutes a day!

bfg69bug Mar 18th 2006 12:30 pm

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Originally Posted by un-mundo
Download adobe, it takes just a couple of minutes and is a pretty essential tool if you use the internet for more than a few minutes a day!

credit me with some intelligence will you... :rolleyes: lol.. i´ve got pdf viewer (the new version thats not out yet ;) ) and it still doesn´t work. i´ve viewed alot of other files with it, so its not the program. when i open it it comes up with some of the text and the rest is blank. i´ll post a pic if i can be bothered.

Mitzyboy Mar 18th 2006 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug
i´ll post a pic if i can be bothered.

:(

kevray Mar 18th 2006 10:08 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug
lol if its not that much i might start transfering my uk plated cars :D

that link doesn´t work for the value of cars, its a blank page??

it would be REALLY helpful if anyone has the correct link ? ??

http://servicios4.jcyl.es/iguia/fuen...iculos2006.pdf
Works fine for me suggest you get a computer engineer to check your PC. must have some spyware on it ;) :D

bfg69bug Mar 20th 2006 2:03 pm

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ok, got a different version of adobe acrobat ( few minutes lol.. i´m on dial up it took 2 hours! ) and i see my english escort is valued at 12,500 new, and my beetle at 4,200 !! :D so does that mean that the tax new would of been 1500 and 294 respectivly ?? (beetle is 1200cc)

what does that mean now tho? how much does it go down each year? the escort is a 1992 - making it nearly 15 years old, while the beetle is near on 36 years old... i´m guessing the amount of import tax would be minimal ? (especially on the beetle !!! )

to transfer a car i am guessing also that it has to be completly "factory" ? no alloy wheels, no big exaust, no blacked out windows? (i´m talking about the beetle, not the escort ;) )

hmmm, i have the V5 of both vehicles (obviously) the beetle could cause some confusion, as it started its life in Iran ! ... lol :D

it sounds like transfering the two to spanish plates will work out pretty cheap then ?

Arco-Iris Mar 20th 2006 5:54 pm

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This is an account of geegee's experience last October and he has given me permission to reproduce it here. Our experience in Cadiz Province was identical, except we got caught in the catch 22 trap 'no tax, no plates-no plates,no tax and had to buy temporary ones for a week.

"Having just gone through the whole process in Malaga thought I would add my experience to the body of knowledge for 'matriculating' your car in Spain, i.e. getting spanish plates:

Step 1. FICHA TECNICA obtained locally in pueblo from kindly mechanic. Straightforward. Cost 80€

Step 2. ITV - Took F.T. and all car papers to ITV centre Antequera for MOT equivalent. Interesting kind of do-it-yourself conveyer belt process (recommend you lean the spanish for 'switch on/off your brake/handbrake//lights; full beam/normal/half beam/foglights; go forward/reverse/stop/start; engine on/off; get on that belt and we will jiggle your car around violently with you in it, etc. Return in one week to collect your ITV 'passport' called a 'Tarjeta Inspeccion Tecnica' - it has a green, blue and pink copy and you need all 3 for trafico. Cost 100.13€.

CAUTIONARY NOTE: ITV centre KEEP your VC5 UK registration certificate and give you a stamped photocopy in return. DON'T be alarmed/throw a tantrum/resort to begging the sour-faced cow behind the counter to give it back to you on the basis that trafico will need it - they don't (oops!).

Step 3. IMPUESTO DE VEHICULOS DE TRACCION MECANICA - Accounts vary on this one, but I took my FT/ITV/all car papers along to the Ayuntamiento and asked to pay the road/circulation tax. In theory, you cannot tax a UK car until its matriculated, but cannot matriculate without the tax (see previous thread). However, mine allowed me to do it and saved me having to get temporary plates then tax it then get permanent plates. Get the certificate and official duplicate duly stamped. Cost 45€.(varies depending on your car, mine's a Smart so was cheap).

Meanwhile, you can be gathering all the other bits of paper you need before you attempt to matriculate, the following need not be in a particuar order but this happened to be mine:

Steps 4/5/6

Get a BAJA DE RESIDENCIA from the consulate if you intend to attempt to NOT pay the import tax, but the date it states that you entered the country must be no earlier than 3 months ago (not 6 - lie if neccessary if you are comfortable about lying on oath) of the date you attempt to matriculate, and you have to have applied for residency no earlier than 30 days previously. Otherwise you will get caught out and have to pay the import tax anyway. I did. Cost: 129€ wasted.

APPLICATION FORM - Go to Trafico in Malaga (same road as the Consulate) and get an application form and guidance notes from the Information counter for 'Matriculacion de Vehiculos Adquiridos en Espana o Paises Comunitarios'. The guidance notes are critical as they list the numerous bits of paper you need to gather to return and actually matriculate!


MODELO 565 - this is the form you need to obtain and fill out to pay the tax you shouldn't have to pay but the sods get you anyway. Get it from the Hacienda offices next to Corte Ingles - ask for Modelo 565 at the desk immediately on your right (go thorugh security and turn round and you will see it). Fill it in, then go right to the back office on the ground floor to the desk in the far right back corner and ask them to fill out the amount of tax you will pay (take your FT and other docs). Then take same form and obtain your 'etiquettas' from another desk at the opposite end of the rook - these are little white stickers that you put on each copy of your Modelo 565. Go to a bank (I went to Unicaja) and pay the tax - get your form stamped to prove payment. Cost: 315€

Step 7: Gather all your bits of paper together, heres the list of what I needed, some of which were not on the guidance notes as requirements. Other things they say you do need, I was not asked for - if in doubt take everything you have and a photocopy just in case:

* Application Form fully filled out (see your Ficha Tecnica/ITV cert for various car details they ask for)
* Original and Copy of your NIE certificate
* Original and Copy of (as it happened, worthless) Baja de Residencia
* Original and Copy of Solicitud de Residencia - they assume if you are matriculating a car you are also applying for residency
* Original and Copy of your Passport
* ITV 'passport' green, blue and pink copies
* Ficha Tecnica (not mentioned in the notes but they asked for it)
* Original and Copy of the stamped copy of your VC5 that ITV give you
* Original and Copy of your original bill of sale for the car from the UK

Step 8. IN TRAFICO - Take your Application Form, filled out, and stand in the queue for Caja's 1/2/3 on the right as you go in. Give the cashier your form and ask to pay the Abonar TASA. Cost: 66.60€. They will then give you a ticket with a number on (but no actual receipt for the cash) and you take a seat and wait for your number to be buzzed. Take all your bits of paper to the desk, and provided all is in order, this seemed fairly straightforwaed. They will then give you a small slip of paper which entitles you to get your plates.

STEP 9: Take your slip to the security desk (they point it out) BUT, they told me I had to wait until Monday to do this to allow them to process it! So near and yet so far....!!! So final installment yet to come!!"

If you want to read the finale, search geegee's posts in Living in Andalucia on andalucia.com.

bfg69bug Mar 21st 2006 12:31 am

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wow that is excelently detailed, thanks !

Costa-Convert Mar 21st 2006 3:08 am

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 

Originally Posted by bfg69bug
wow that is excelently detailed, thanks !


Ditto :D

bfg69bug Mar 21st 2006 3:47 am

Re: Car Transfer Info Required
 
oh dear -

By April 2006 it will be almost impossible to import a right hand drive vehicle onto Spanish plates ! It is already impossible to import a right hand drive commercial vehicle.

i´ll not bother trying to re-register my escort then :( does anyone else see the prices of lhd cars in the uk rocketing upwards this year ? :rolleyes:


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