car in spain

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 5th 2014, 3:13 pm
  #1  
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Moraira
Posts: 162
bil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant futurebil8999 has a brilliant future
Default car in spain

Hi to all


Thinking of either bringing one of our cars from the uk or buying in spain.
What would you do? in hind sight.

We are only there at the moment about 10 weeks of the year.
Some times the car hire can be a pain.

Thanks in advance
bil8999 is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2014, 3:52 pm
  #2  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Location: Hampshire coast
Posts: 1,584
lutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Good question.
I am still not 100% sure if a non resident is allowed to own and drive a Spanish car - although many do, myself included.

It's a subject that's cropped up from time to time on this Forum - often related to being on the Padron (or not).

Hopefully we will get a definitive answer.
lutonlad is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2014, 4:21 pm
  #3  
Dxf
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Beckenham, London borough Bromley
Posts: 1,617
Dxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond reputeDxf has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Hola

Purely on a cost basis - by my calculations - about equal costs. But there is a comfort feeling in having your own car - if you can get to it easily. When you land at the airport, or your boat docks, how do you get to your car!

Your car will have to be serviced etc., and MOT´d (ITV). Plus tax and insurance. There are costs both ways. I know people who have friends who will drive them to the airport and back in the car of the visitors - but there is a lot of trust involved. And I´ve seen many car "trashed" by non owners driving them around "just to keep them ticking over".

Only the OP can really decide - if they were here in Spain longer then their own car is better - here shorter then better to rent. The cross over depends on many things

Davexf
Dxf is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2014, 4:29 pm
  #4  
Concierge
 
mikelincs's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: ex ex-pat, in Taunton
Posts: 27,217
mikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by bil8999
Hi to all


Thinking of either bringing one of our cars from the uk or buying in spain.
What would you do? in hind sight.

We are only there at the moment about 10 weeks of the year.
Some times the car hire can be a pain.

Thanks in advance
I suppose it's a question of costs, bringing your own car to Spain will mean matriculation to make it legal, it's only allowed to be in Spain 6 months before it's matriculated, if you don't want to do that, then you will have to keep taking it back to the UK with you, as it will need a UK tax disc and MOT to stay legal. The length of time you ae in Spain has no bearing on the need to matriculate, once it has been in Spain for the 6 months, then it must go back to the UK or be changed to Spanish plates.
A Spanish car would be better as the stering wheel is on the correct side for you to see the road when overtaking, and also when you enter a barrier car park
mikelincs is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2014, 4:47 pm
  #5  
 
Fred James's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Granada Costa
Posts: 10,904
Fred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond reputeFred James has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by mikelincs
I suppose it's a question of costs, bringing your own car to Spain will mean matriculation to make it legal, it's only allowed to be in Spain 6 months before it's matriculated, if you don't want to do that, then you will have to keep taking it back to the UK with you, as it will need a UK tax disc and MOT to stay legal. The length of time you ae in Spain has no bearing on the need to matriculate, once it has been in Spain for the 6 months, then it must go back to the UK or be changed to Spanish plates.
A Spanish car would be better as the stering wheel is on the correct side for you to see the road when overtaking, and also when you enter a barrier car park
That's not actually correct. The car, under existing EU rules, can stay in Spain for more than six months, but if the owners stay more than 6 months in a calendar year they become tax resident and cannot drive a UK reg car.

It is the time that the owners stay in Spain that is more critical than the time the car stays in Spain (subject to the tax, insurance and MOT rules). Also, because of the tax rules it is possible to drive the car continuously from July to June of the next tax year.

The recent changes to the traffic laws do include some changes to this but, as yet, it is not entirely clear what they are.

Incidentally, the requirement to display a UK car tax disk is about to disappear as they are being discontinued. The Guardia, if they can be bothered, already have access to the DVLA records and can check if a car is taxed in the UK.
Fred James is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:00 pm
  #6  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Location: Hampshire coast
Posts: 1,584
lutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond reputelutonlad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

I would still like to know if there is a definitive answer to the question of whether a non res can own and drive a Spanish car.
The more I dig, the more confused I get.
Now I'm not even sure that Insurance is valid if you don't reside in Spain. I was never asked the question by my broker - but looking at the policy, I notice that it classifies me as resident, which is not the case!
lutonlad is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:13 pm
  #7  
BE Forum Addict
 
andyrich666's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Finally now living in Lo Marabu, Rojales, and it feels like home
Posts: 3,569
andyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by Fred James
That's not actually correct. The car, under existing EU rules, can stay in Spain for more than six months, but if the owners stay more than 6 months in a calendar year they become tax resident and cannot drive a UK reg car.

It is the time that the owners stay in Spain that is more critical than the time the car stays in Spain (subject to the tax, insurance and MOT rules). Also, because of the tax rules it is possible to drive the car continuously from July to June of the next tax year.

The recent changes to the traffic laws do include some changes to this but, as yet, it is not entirely clear what they are.

Incidentally, the requirement to display a UK car tax disk is about to disappear as they are being discontinued. The Guardia, if they can be bothered, already have access to the DVLA records and can check if a car is taxed in the UK.
Any posts about cars and he is the first one out the blocks.
andyrich666 is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:31 pm
  #8  
BE Enthusiast
 
rafikiphoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Seville
Posts: 572
rafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nice
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by andyrich666
Any posts about cars and he is the first one out the blocks.
And a very good job too. The info is invariably correct and helps keep a lot of spurious info from being tossed around and causing confusion!
rafikiphoto is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:43 pm
  #9  
BE Forum Addict
 
andyrich666's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Finally now living in Lo Marabu, Rojales, and it feels like home
Posts: 3,569
andyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by rafikiphoto
And a very good job too. The info is invariably correct and helps keep a lot of spurious info from being tossed around and causing confusion!
It is confusion as the posts he makes are not correct as everyone jumps on them, personally I give up, in the post he made there are 2 serious factual errors.
andyrich666 is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:44 pm
  #10  
BE Enthusiast
 
rafikiphoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Seville
Posts: 572
rafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nice
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by andyrich666
... in the post he made there are 2 serious factual errors.
Namely?
rafikiphoto is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:56 pm
  #11  
BE Forum Addict
 
andyrich666's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Finally now living in Lo Marabu, Rojales, and it feels like home
Posts: 3,569
andyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

See #5
andyrich666 is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 12:59 pm
  #12  
BE Enthusiast
 
rafikiphoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Seville
Posts: 572
rafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nice
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by andyrich666
See #5
Yes, that's the one I am referring to and you're quoting. What is it that you are saying is incorrect there?
rafikiphoto is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 1:08 pm
  #13  
BE Forum Addict
 
andyrich666's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Finally now living in Lo Marabu, Rojales, and it feels like home
Posts: 3,569
andyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by rafikiphoto
Yes, that's the one I am referring to and you're quoting. What is it that you are saying is incorrect there?
We have our wires crossed then, My rant is against Mikelincs
andyrich666 is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 1:10 pm
  #14  
BE Enthusiast
 
rafikiphoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Seville
Posts: 572
rafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nicerafikiphoto is just really nice
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by andyrich666
We have our wires crossed then
Just what I was thinking. You quoted Fred James and referred to 'he'. I guess your comment was aimed at the object of Fred's quote then?
rafikiphoto is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2014, 1:18 pm
  #15  
BE Forum Addict
 
andyrich666's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Finally now living in Lo Marabu, Rojales, and it feels like home
Posts: 3,569
andyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond reputeandyrich666 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: car in spain

Originally Posted by rafikiphoto
Just what I was thinking. You quoted Fred James and referred to 'he'. I guess your comment was aimed at the object of Fred's quote then?
Yes I meant Mike is always first out the traps with any UK plate car thread and I give up arguing the facts as its been repeated so many times but never took in.

There are laws and there are risks associated, there are also bad people who do not keep there cars legal but I really do not believe that is the majority, in fact I know a few that have Spanish plated cars drive with no insurance and ITV, and that really is the gods honest truth I swear, one is a ex copper (female), but that happens all over the world too, It does not mean that every law is enforced, enforcement is usually a last resort.

Lastly if you have bring it down to steering wheel on whatever side, then you have to question you ability to drive, your scraping the barrel at parking barriers, I never had anyone get riled with me for having to jump out and grab a ticket.
andyrich666 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.