Campsites/caravan sites
Jun 21st 2012, 8:35 pm
#16
Banned
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,008
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Solar power to supply electricity to caravans in Benidorm? I don't have the technical knowledge, but in these troubled times any new business ideas must be worth considering.
Spain is blessed with sunshine, almost all year round, yet I haven't seen much evidence of it being harnessed on a commercial basis. Maybe it's a storage problem, do you need a bank of batteries?
It's got to be a better idea than buying a bar in Benidorm, or Torrevieja.
I was gutted today to see the most successful expat bar closed down today. It was run by experienced operators who provided exactly what expats wanted.
If they had to close after five years, the ones still left have got no chance of surviving.
Spain is blessed with sunshine, almost all year round, yet I haven't seen much evidence of it being harnessed on a commercial basis. Maybe it's a storage problem, do you need a bank of batteries?
It's got to be a better idea than buying a bar in Benidorm, or Torrevieja.
I was gutted today to see the most successful expat bar closed down today. It was run by experienced operators who provided exactly what expats wanted.
If they had to close after five years, the ones still left have got no chance of surviving.
Jun 21st 2012, 8:38 pm
#17
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Are you trying to create two businesses here? Supply of electricity and installation of solar panels etc.
If you are then I would caution as follows
Firstly you will most likely find that the occupier is legally obliged to buy the electricity through the campsite owners and not free to shop around.
Secondly why would anyone fit a solar panel to a rapidly depreciating asset, the ten year guarantee will likely outlast the van.
If you are then I would caution as follows
Firstly you will most likely find that the occupier is legally obliged to buy the electricity through the campsite owners and not free to shop around.
Secondly why would anyone fit a solar panel to a rapidly depreciating asset, the ten year guarantee will likely outlast the van.
Well this is why I want to find out the legalities of it all. But I will say that nobody's legally obliged to buy electric from the camp site owners at all as long as your ground rent is payed they couldn't care if you use any electric or not basically they have an electric supply and if you want electric you pay and you pay treble and people are paying it aswell. Plus people still would be using there electric just not as much hense the solar system coming into play which is cutting what they are normally paying by half.
As for the 10 year guarantee I think it's quite comforting knowing that. Plus most people who have retired to Spain and live on camping sites tend to just buy a new caravan now if there old one is falling apart as they are dirt cheap to buy now plus you just tell the customer that if they do have this problem then they can call you to come out and switch the system onto the new caravan for a small fee.
There is a lot of ins and outs we don't know about right now but we are going to stick to the advice of my friends brother who specialises in this sort of thing.
If it don't take off it don't take off oh well never cry over spilt milk!!
Jun 21st 2012, 8:43 pm
#18
Banned
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,008
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Well this is why I want to find out the legalities of it all. But I will say that nobody's legally obliged to buy electric from the camp site owners at all as long as your ground rent is payed they couldn't care if you use any electric or not basically they have an electric supply and if you want electric you pay and you pay treble and people are paying it aswell. Plus people still would be using there electric just not as much hense the solar system coming into play which is cutting what they are normally paying by half.
As for the 10 year guarantee I think it's quite comforting knowing that. Plus most people who have retired to Spain and live on camping sites tend to just buy a new caravan now if there old one is falling apart as they are dirt cheap to buy now plus you just tell the customer that if they do have this problem then they can call you to come out and switch the system onto the new caravan for a small fee.
There is a lot of ins and outs we don't know about right now but we are going to stick to the advice of my friends brother who specialises in this sort of thing.
If it don't take off it don't take off oh well never cry over spilt milk!!
As for the 10 year guarantee I think it's quite comforting knowing that. Plus most people who have retired to Spain and live on camping sites tend to just buy a new caravan now if there old one is falling apart as they are dirt cheap to buy now plus you just tell the customer that if they do have this problem then they can call you to come out and switch the system onto the new caravan for a small fee.
There is a lot of ins and outs we don't know about right now but we are going to stick to the advice of my friends brother who specialises in this sort of thing.
If it don't take off it don't take off oh well never cry over spilt milk!!
Jun 21st 2012, 8:47 pm
#19
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,518
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
I'm now confused by your argument, If they are not legally obliged to buy the electricity from the owners of the site then why do they at three times the rate?
Jun 21st 2012, 8:53 pm
#20
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Because where else would they get it from lol ? Big companies like e-on ain't going to supply a caravan are they unless it's them supplying the site lol.
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
Jun 21st 2012, 8:56 pm
#21
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Oh yeh we would be doing the envoirament a big favour too by all accounts :-)
Jun 21st 2012, 8:58 pm
#22
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,518
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Because where else would they get it from lol ? Big companies like e-on ain't going to supply a caravan are they unless it's them supplying the site lol.
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
Jun 21st 2012, 9:01 pm
#23
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: May 2009
Location: Alicante province
Posts: 5,753
Jun 21st 2012, 9:02 pm
#24
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Well mate I'm led to believe nobody is legally obliged to purchase there electricity from the campsite owners! They have the god given right to create their own if they want and why not take advantage of the beautiful sun eh ???
Jun 21st 2012, 9:28 pm
#25
Banned
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,008
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Because where else would they get it from lol ? Big companies like e-on ain't going to supply a caravan are they unless it's them supplying the site lol.
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
HGB yes they run off battery banks!!
JFLS if everybody thought like that about guarantee then nobody would buy anything would they!!
Jun 21st 2012, 9:33 pm
#26
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Ok so can you tell me the solution to that problem ?
Jun 21st 2012, 9:42 pm
#28
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Thing is you can't say to a customer "I'm not giving you a guarantee because my business is going to fold probably" negative thinking don't make businesses successful. But then again you may be right in saying in Spain a 10 year guarantee is a big ask so what's the solution give a 5 year one ?
Jun 21st 2012, 10:00 pm
#29
Banned
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,008
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
Thing is you can't say to a customer "I'm not giving you a guarantee because my business is going to fold probably" negative thinking don't make businesses successful. But then again you may be right in saying in Spain a 10 year guarantee is a big ask so what's the solution give a 5 year one ?
Jun 21st 2012, 10:04 pm
#30
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Nueva Andalucía.
Posts: 121
Re: Campsites/caravan sites
I know this!! I am genuinely asking you that question, would it be safer to give a 5 year one even though the system goes beyond 10 I understand what you are saying.