Re: Bye, Amy.
 

I think that you answered your own comment as soon as used the word celeb, nothing else appears to matter these days.

Graham

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Everyone knew Amy, but the chinese were anonymous.

Sad fact of life.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

I'm not aware of anyone that has died from taking 1 asprin or a glass of water, however it does happen with ecstasy. I am also not aware of whole families lives being destroyed by drinking excess water which is what happens if you have an heroin addict as a son or daughter. If you are speaking of cannabis then yes you may have a point problem is most drug addicts do start with that it's what it leads onto that matters. Sorry but I do not see or agree with the point you make. Tragic that a talented young woman's life ends like this.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Can we not turn this into another drugs yes or no debate please ....... She's dead, probably of an overdose ... there will always be different views on the use of drugs and as we proved here before, it usually ends in an argument :(

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Of course, we are jumping the gun. She could just as easily have died from alcohol. After all, that is a big killer, and the gateway to drug taking.

I don't know any drug addict that didn't start off on alcohol.

Of course, you have to ask, if she hadn't been the type to go down that road, would she have sung like she did?

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

the perils of drug taking are well known and its usually smokers who progress down that route IME

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

I think you will find that almost all drug addicts started off with alcohol, which is more damaging than heroin.

Logically if you were going to ban anything, you'd ban fags and booze an alcohol as they kill the most and ruin the most lives.

Why is it that so many artists turn to alcohol and drugs? I know that bipolars have a high addiction rate, alcohol and drugs, as they try to self medicate. They are also at their most creative on the highs of their cycle.

Perhaps those with that kind of high produce more memorable stuff?

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Each to their own opinion with this one suppose it depends on how much contact you have had with alcoholics and drug users. Although it's an addiction that kills you there is little similarity to smoking. Mind you one thing is you can drink in moderation as millions do and enjoy it, heroin is totally different, if you can't see that I can only presume you have had little contact with heroin addicts.
As has been said irrespective of how she died she was addicted to alcohol and drugs and no doubt lost her life as a result of one or both, very sad and a waste of a young and talented life my thoughts are for the waste of life and her family.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Alcohol addiction is a terrible thing, just look how many artists it has destroyed.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

I saw her , 7-8 years ago , on a Jools Holland New Year ( Hootenanny ) show , when she was pretty-much unknown and reasonably modest and well-behaved ( if bland and coy ) ;
after which she had that Back to Black album , all the incredible world-wide success and all that money and a few years of being ( mostly ) off ;
In Belgrade recently , 1st concert of a new tour : it was a catastrophe . People still speak of that .

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

I'm not saying it's not but heroin addiction is no picnic either, I have had plenty of dealings with both types, any addiction is terrible for the person involved and often their families. However as Mitzy says that's not what the threads about so I'll leave you to your opinion.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

ten times easier to give up heroin than alcohol.

Back to the question tho, why is it that so many sometimes quite talented artists that seem to have that destructive addictive side to them?

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Or are we confusing correlation with causation? A lot of really talented artists become famous at an early age. They are then exposed to wealth, parties, access to as many unhealthy substances as they want... There's a saying stating that "youth is wasted on the youth". I can't sit here and give a lecture on Amy Winehouse, or any rock star who goes off the rails. If I'd had had the money and the fame at that age, I doubt I'd have coped well either.

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

prove it ....

Re: Bye, Amy.
 

Domino I am glad you said that as my view as well. I am not saying that alcohol addiction is easy because it's not and yes it can kill. Have you seen the affects of heroin? they are both killers but I will say my point again there are millions of people use alcohol without becoming addicted no doubt many on here enjoy a cervaza or glass of wine and no doubt sometimes have a bit too much, result bad head and often making a fool of yourself. Unfortunately some become addicted. Heroin is a totally addictive drug once taken without specialist help you are addicted. I do not believe that you think taking heroin is recreational or anything but addictive.