Buying a used car in Spain help!
Hi, has anyone here purchased a car in Spain, or more specifically Andalucia. We just moved to Malaga and have a car we want to buy privately. I wanted to ask if someone can help us with the following doubts we have
1) What are the costs involved over and above the purchase price of the car? I read here that there is a 4% charge if you buy used. Is this correct? What are the other charges involved? 2) What paperwork do I need to buy the car? 3) What paperwork do I need to register the car in my name in spain being a EU citizen 3) Since we have 30 days to register the vehicle in our name, can we drive it in the meantime? thanks for all your help |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12275154)
Hi, has anyone here purchased a car in Spain, or more specifically Andalucia. We just moved to Malaga and have a car we want to buy privately. I wanted to ask if someone can help us with the following doubts we have
1) What are the costs involved over and above the purchase price of the car? I read here that there is a 4% charge if you buy used. Is this correct? What are the other charges involved? 2) What paperwork do I need to buy the car? 3) What paperwork do I need to register the car in my name in spain being a EU citizen 3) Since we have 30 days to register the vehicle in our name, can we drive it in the meantime? thanks for all your help if you go ahead on your own you will need : 1. From DGT "Antecedentes del vehiclo" - this will give official past history and avoid any surprises. 2. Also from DGT the form to be filled out on change of ownership "cambiar del Titularidad" 3. From owner - the technical logbook and receipt for road tax, also up to date technical inspection report. Also a copy of their DNI 4. A contract needs to be done "Compraventa" 5. Yes there is a tax to pay "transmisiones patrimoniales" (ITP ) and this varies depending on the region. Malaga will fix its own level and it must be paid within 30 days. 6. The owner may ask for your signature on another form from the DGT which confirms the sale and they will then notify the DGT the vehicle has been sold by them in case you fail to do the process All info here : Papeleo compra coche segunda mano paso a paso | blogcochesegundamano |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12275154)
Hi, has anyone here purchased a car in Spain, or more specifically Andalucia. We just moved to Malaga and have a car we want to buy privately. I wanted to ask if someone can help us with the following doubts we have
1) What are the costs involved over and above the purchase price of the car? I read here that there is a 4% charge if you buy used. Is this correct? What are the other charges involved? 2) What paperwork do I need to buy the car? 3) What paperwork do I need to register the car in my name in spain being a EU citizen 3) Since we have 30 days to register the vehicle in our name, can we drive it in the meantime? thanks for all your help |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Loafing Along
(Post 12275468)
If you buy from a car dealer they will do all the paperwork for you.
if you go ahead on your own you will need : 1. From DGT "Antecedentes del vehiclo" - this will give official past history and avoid any surprises. 2. Also from DGT the form to be filled out on change of ownership "cambiar del Titularidad" 3. From owner - the technical logbook and receipt for road tax, also up to date technical inspection report. Also a copy of their DNI 4. A contract needs to be done "Compraventa" 5. Yes there is a tax to pay "transmisiones patrimoniales" (ITP ) and this varies depending on the region. Malaga will fix its own level and it must be paid within 30 days. 6. The owner may ask for your signature on another form from the DGT which confirms the sale and they will then notify the DGT the vehicle has been sold by them in case you fail to do the process All info here : Papeleo compra coche segunda mano paso a paso | blogcochesegundamano Thank you for your reply. It was very informative. Regarding number 3, what is the difference between the "technical logbook" and the "technical inspection report". The seller showed me a double-sided coloured A4 card with all the vehicles details and technical info. He told me it belongs to the vehicle. Would this be one of them? Also, the big question on my mind is, once I have paid for the car and done all the paperwork outlined above, can I drive it during the 30 days I have to register it into my name? Our situation is that we just arrived in Malaga and want to go house shopping but we wanted to buy a car first to get us around. This means that we don't have an actual address yet but need to get mobile right away. thanks again for the info, it has been very helpful |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12275958)
Thank you for your reply. It was very informative. Regarding number 3, what is the difference between the "technical logbook" and the "technical inspection report". The seller showed me a double-sided coloured A4 card with all the vehicles details and technical info. He told me it belongs to the vehicle. Would this be one of them?
Also, the big question on my mind is, once I have paid for the car and done all the paperwork outlined above, can I drive it during the 30 days I have to register it into my name? Our situation is that we just arrived in Malaga and want to go house shopping but we wanted to buy a car first to get us around. This means that we don't have an actual address yet but need to get mobile right away. thanks again for the info, it has been very helpful Surely better to rent for your initial 30 days. Technical documentation - 2 principle ones : The car logbook , not A4 size but smaller, lists technical details of car and then the road certificate. ( permiso de circulacion ) If the car is 4 years old or more must have annual ITV inspection report/stamp and a small sticker on the windscreen. If you do present all documentation online should be covered for 30 day period but , again, problem of address. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12275958)
, what is the difference between the "technical logbook" and the "technical inspection report".
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Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
We do have an address but it is a short term let just for our first few weeks. Will this be sufficient or do you need a long term let with an actual rental contract?
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Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 12276115)
The smaller one is the Logbook - Ficha Tecnica which includes boxes which are stamped when the car has completed its ITV. The A4 sheet is the actual detailed report from the last ITV test. It is mandatory to carry in the car the report as well as the stamped Ficha Tecnica.
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Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276131)
We do have an address but it is a short term let just for our first few weeks. Will this be sufficient or do you need a long term let with an actual rental contract?
This is the DGT documentation summary in english https://sede.dgt.gob.es/Galerias/tra...04-04-2016.pdf |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Loafing Along
(Post 12276140)
Not sure that will be sufficient. You have to provide an original document that confirms your address.
This is the DGT documentation summary in english https://sede.dgt.gob.es/Galerias/tra...04-04-2016.pdf |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276142)
Dont i have 30 days to provide this address though?
Was is clear is that for the seller in 15 days they should expect to receive confirmation from the DGT that the vehicle has been transferred to you and , if not, they should go to their local Trafico office to inform them of the sale. . As a PS : The timing, date and hour is critical on the sale document as this involves liability for potential fixed penalty fines, and who has to pay them. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Loafing Along
(Post 12276162)
In theory but at the time of purchase you need to put personal details, including address in the "Compraventa" document. No idea how that influences what address you then use on the official transfer papers.
Was is clear is that for the seller in 15 days they should expect to receive confirmation from the DGT that the vehicle has been transferred to you and , if not, they should go to their local Trafico office to inform them of the sale. . As a PS : The timing, date and hour is critical on the sale document as this involves liability for potential fixed penalty fines, and who has to pay them. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276184)
And if for arguments sake i was to leave that address field blank until i got the rental contract sorted?
No idea |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 12276115)
The smaller one is the Logbook - Ficha Tecnica which includes boxes which are stamped when the car has completed its ITV. The A4 sheet is the actual detailed report from the last ITV test. It is mandatory to carry in the car the report as well as the stamped Ficha Tecnica.
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Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by VFR
(Post 12275623)
Visit your local Gestor office as they will sort all of the procedures for around 60eu.
Also, the car that I am buying is actually in the sellers fathers name. He doesn't talk to his father apparently but he showed me the drivers license of his father so I can see the signatures match on the contract "compra venta" that we are to sign in a few days when we do the deal. Do you think I should insist to do the deal with his father rather than him? |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
The Gestor will know what is what.
So the seller does not own the car & he does not talk to the owner ? Time to look for something else (IMO) among the untold thousands of cars for sale out there. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by VFR
(Post 12276495)
The Gestor will know what is what.
So the seller does not own the car & he does not talk to the owner ? Time to look for something else (IMO) among the untold thousands of cars for sale out there. 90% of used cars for sale are ex rental cars or cars that have been used by hundreds of people. I found this one and liked it because it is a one-owner car and the chap selling is a family man who really seemed correct and nice. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276647)
Yes. His owner is his father or at least the person who signed for the loan with the bank. The "permiso de circulacion" is in his own name. The car is still under finance by the bank.
90% of used cars for sale are ex rental cars or cars that have been used by hundreds of people. I found this one and liked it because it is a one-owner car and the chap selling is a family man who really seemed correct and nice. I would doubt this very much So many dealers around and the local English press is full of adverts |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Tadd1966
(Post 12276661)
Really 90%?
I would doubt this very much So many dealers around and the local English press is full of adverts |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Tadd1966
(Post 12276661)
Really 90%?
I would doubt this very much So many dealers around and the local English press is full of adverts |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276724)
not sure if it is 90% but the majority of cars 2 - 4 years old published on the main sites come from dealers and if you phone and ask the dealer where the car comes from, they tell you that they come from leasing or rental companies.
As for the press just do an internet search or call in to a newsagent and pick up a copy Many shops and bars have the freebies also Even if it is an ex hire car most reputable hire car companies don't keep cars for very long and limit the mileage. If bought from a dealer you get the warranty, serviced and checked so what is the problem In my experience (in costa Blanca) 2nd hand cars hold there value and for only a little more you can buy new. Check dealer websites for 0km stock |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12276687)
can you please share a link? Which local english press?
https://www.motor.es/coches-segunda-mano/malaga/ This one in english : http://www.ooyyo.com/spain/used-cars...B6753DBA33C71/ |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by Tadd1966
(Post 12276857)
I thought 90% is a bit high;)
As for the press just do an internet search or call in to a newsagent and pick up a copy Many shops and bars have the freebies also Even if it is an ex hire car most reputable hire car companies don't keep cars for very long and limit the mileage. If bought from a dealer you get the warranty, serviced and checked so what is the problem In my experience (in costa Blanca) 2nd hand cars hold there value and for only a little more you can buy new. Check dealer websites for 0km stock Also, I don't like cars that have been used for any other use than personal. The condition and smell is always different when it is from a rental car company |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
This link should help.
"How can I transfer a car myself" How can I transfer a car by myself | N332 - Driving In Spain |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Wow, big wheels, that link makes it look very straightforward. We bought a second hand car from a dealership and it took them SIX MONTHS to get it into husband's name - although I think most of that period was due to them just not bothering to get on with it.
One thing though - in Castellon the Trafico also required us to produce a document "proving" that we actually lived at our address, not simply that we owned the property. This we got from the Ayuntamiento, simple application form, took 2 days, and no fee. The document simply stated that we lived at the address stated, although no check of any sort was carried out. |
Re: Buying a used car in Spain help!
Originally Posted by camomiletea
(Post 12275154)
Hi, has anyone here purchased a car in Spain, or more specifically Andalucia. We just moved to Malaga and have a car we want to buy privately. I wanted to ask if someone can help us with the following doubts we have
1) What are the costs involved over and above the purchase price of the car? I read here that there is a 4% charge if you buy used. Is this correct? What are the other charges involved? 2) What paperwork do I need to buy the car? 3) What paperwork do I need to register the car in my name in spain being a EU citizen 3) Since we have 30 days to register the vehicle in our name, can we drive it in the meantime? thanks for all your help |
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