Buying a dog in Spain
#16
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Re: Buying a dog in Spain
The first winter we were here we bought a Westie puppy from a local breeder so saw the Mum and Dad. However after paying over the money we never got his papers I don´t know what happened but it was some sort of scam. She said we were supposed to take him back to get his chip put in by her. Well we didn´t and went to our local vet as the breeder didn´t put his chip in she said that we couldn´t have the papers. It was all seven years ago and we were pretty naive at the time. We wanted a Westie as I have always had them in the family and know their nature. However as much as I love my boy I now see all the unwanted dogs and feel that it is better to get one of those.
#17
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Re: Buying a dog in Spain
I would suggest that Spanish breeders are just as responsible as breeders in other parts of the world.
#18
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Re: Buying a dog in Spain
Would it just be better to say that breeding of any dog in any country for monitory gain is not right. There are just as many cases here of over breeding as there is anywhere else, it is a case of supply and demand, if there was no demand they would not feel the need to do it.
As long as people want the pedigree breeds for what ever reason although many have difficulties systemic to the breed there will be people willing to exploit it. if that means breeding mother with son or sister with brother they do it. I am a little lost with reference to papers, I did not think there was an inequivalent here to kennel club papers to show the pedigree, the only way to get the papers is to go through the kennel club and go to one of their recognised breeders and then you can guarantee the lineage.
This may be of interest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C23RP...layer_embedded
This has been posted on the facebook page of happy endings/final feliz rescue centre. All these puppies were rescued from a single house, they are now in their care
As long as people want the pedigree breeds for what ever reason although many have difficulties systemic to the breed there will be people willing to exploit it. if that means breeding mother with son or sister with brother they do it. I am a little lost with reference to papers, I did not think there was an inequivalent here to kennel club papers to show the pedigree, the only way to get the papers is to go through the kennel club and go to one of their recognised breeders and then you can guarantee the lineage.
This may be of interest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C23RP...layer_embedded
This has been posted on the facebook page of happy endings/final feliz rescue centre. All these puppies were rescued from a single house, they are now in their care
#19
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
Would it just be better to say that breeding of any dog in any country for monitory gain is not right. There are just as many cases here of over breeding as there is anywhere else, it is a case of supply and demand, if there was no demand they would not feel the need to do it.
As long as people want the pedigree breeds for what ever reason although many have difficulties systemic to the breed there will be people willing to exploit it. if that means breeding mother with son or sister with brother they do it. I am a little lost with reference to papers, I did not think there was an inequivalent here to kennel club papers to show the pedigree, the only way to get the papers is to go through the kennel club and go to one of their recognised breeders and then you can guarantee the lineage.
This may be of interest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C23RP...layer_embedded
This has been posted on the facebook page of happy endings/final feliz rescue centre. All these puppies were rescued from a single house, they are now in their care
As long as people want the pedigree breeds for what ever reason although many have difficulties systemic to the breed there will be people willing to exploit it. if that means breeding mother with son or sister with brother they do it. I am a little lost with reference to papers, I did not think there was an inequivalent here to kennel club papers to show the pedigree, the only way to get the papers is to go through the kennel club and go to one of their recognised breeders and then you can guarantee the lineage.
This may be of interest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C23RP...layer_embedded
This has been posted on the facebook page of happy endings/final feliz rescue centre. All these puppies were rescued from a single house, they are now in their care
http://www.rsce.es/web/
Real Sociadad Canina Espana
and they do run shows etc in just the same way as the UK Kennel Club, UK dogs can be shown there and Spanish dogs can be shown at UK shows, subject to them having the required vacinations etc.
#20
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
After we had been here a year we decided to by a spanish Mastiff... and went to a breeder who shows them and was very involved with the breed organization.. (and who has just tried to be chairman of the club!)
well the dog had very bad hip dysplacia at the age of one, and had to be operared on, I did contact the breeder , no reply... Penny, the dog is 6 now and still ok after her op... im now in contact with a breeder that hip scores, so if I ever have another I will go to her
well the dog had very bad hip dysplacia at the age of one, and had to be operared on, I did contact the breeder , no reply... Penny, the dog is 6 now and still ok after her op... im now in contact with a breeder that hip scores, so if I ever have another I will go to her
#21
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
18 months ago on 23rd of December i found a scruffy little pup in the bins, vet reckoned she was about 3 months old. we kept her and Lucy is a joy to have and also a friend for Buster who is now 15.
#22
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
It's odd - most of the strays adopted seem to be so grateful for their new home that they turn themselves into perfect pets. I've had pedigrees and strays, and the strays (mostly) were the friendlier.
Except Lucy, a street dog we took on, who just wouldn't stay in the house. She wanted to live under the Landy parked outside. Even jumped off the (single storey) roof to get out when I'd blocked all other exits. The dog catchers got her three times, and in the end we just had to let her go.
Sadly can't have either any more as Son#1 is now allergic, as is grandson.
Mind you, I suppose I could always get rid of my son .......
Except Lucy, a street dog we took on, who just wouldn't stay in the house. She wanted to live under the Landy parked outside. Even jumped off the (single storey) roof to get out when I'd blocked all other exits. The dog catchers got her three times, and in the end we just had to let her go.
Sadly can't have either any more as Son#1 is now allergic, as is grandson.
Mind you, I suppose I could always get rid of my son .......
#23
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
It's odd - most of the strays adopted seem to be so grateful for their new home that they turn themselves into perfect pets. I've had pedigrees and strays, and the strays (mostly) were the friendlier.
Except Lucy, a street dog we took on, who just wouldn't stay in the house. She wanted to live under the Landy parked outside. Even jumped off the (single storey) roof to get out when I'd blocked all other exits. The dog catchers got her three times, and in the end we just had to let her go.
Sadly can't have either any more as Son#1 is now allergic, as is grandson.
Mind you, I suppose I could always get rid of my son .......
Except Lucy, a street dog we took on, who just wouldn't stay in the house. She wanted to live under the Landy parked outside. Even jumped off the (single storey) roof to get out when I'd blocked all other exits. The dog catchers got her three times, and in the end we just had to let her go.
Sadly can't have either any more as Son#1 is now allergic, as is grandson.
Mind you, I suppose I could always get rid of my son .......
#24
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
Needed one in Lanza when we first got here - not many paved roads. I'm amazed that anyone CHOOSES to drive one off road. I'm sure I lost some teeth along the way.
#25
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
I don't think I'd buy a dog anywhere, actually, thinking about putting things on the record. OK pedigrees can be wonderful, depending on their breeding history etc., but you can if lucky get a pedigree from a shelter/wherever.
#26
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
Taking one a little older from a rescue centre is a good option.
Most of them will allow you a trial period or temporary adoption to see if they fit in ok with your family and home.
If it doesn't work out then you can always go back and try another one.
Normally there is no charge, but its common practice to make a small donation to the the rescue centre once you are happy.
Buy from a breeder and you are stuck with it, like it or not, and your money is gone for good.
Most of them will allow you a trial period or temporary adoption to see if they fit in ok with your family and home.
If it doesn't work out then you can always go back and try another one.
Normally there is no charge, but its common practice to make a small donation to the the rescue centre once you are happy.
Buy from a breeder and you are stuck with it, like it or not, and your money is gone for good.
#27
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
[QUOTE=fionamw;9497678]Always wondered who Buster would be!
He's Lhasa Apso, kennel club registered, full pedigree, and he's a right grumpy bugger, too posh to play ball, but we love him
He's Lhasa Apso, kennel club registered, full pedigree, and he's a right grumpy bugger, too posh to play ball, but we love him
#28
Re: Buying a dog in Spain
[QUOTE=busters mum;9497887]
My mother's late lamented (smelly but you dare tell a 90yo her dog stinks) Bamber was Shih Tzu from a rescue kennel (as were all her previous including a pedigree black male German Shepherd) so small hairy and (maybe)smelly all ring bells