Re: The Big Anniversary
Hahah is that right ? the way you read it around about they are as peed off with them as they were with their own country then came here to do the same.
Maybe it is all hyped but whatever it adds up to, for me I wish countries would keep their noses out of others and leave them to live how they want. If they want to kill each other, treat their own badly then so be it. It may not be right as others see it, nor decent or even human. If you don't like how they live don't live there and leave them to their ways. Who gave anybody the right to make others change their beliefs. |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench
(Post 9613926)
Hahah is that right ? the way you read it around about they are as peed off with them as they were with their own country then came here to do the same.
Maybe it is all hyped but whatever it adds up to, for me I wish countries would keep their noses out of others and leave them to live how they want. If they want to kill each other, treat their own badly then so be it. It may not be right as others see it, nor decent or even human. If you don't like how they live don't live there and leave them to their ways. Who gave anybody the right to make others change their beliefs. That is way I read your post |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 9613841)
I agree too, but if you say that you are immidiately accused of being racist.
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Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9613511)
Every time the Yanks gob on about 9/11, I remember all the IRA attacks funded by them, supported by them and all the IRA terrorists they treated as honoured guests.
So, in one sense, 9/11 was a case of the Yanks getting a taste of what they had been happy to dish out over the years. My only sorrow was that the twin towers hadn't been stuffed full of just the Americans who had supported terrorism. when I recently read the list of Founding Fathers there wasnt a single Irishman there. i remember the IRA bombings in London, the mess made not only of the Nat West tower but all the adjacent streets - not just buildings. the blast travelled in all directions straight down the streets. horrendous then there was the Baltic Exchange....... |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9613248)
I know the big world changed after 9/11, but so did my little world. After a day of watching the horrendous events on television, I threw away our travel plans and cancelled the booked accommodation where I was able to. We were going to start in the Middle East, after a lifetime of planning and saving.
We did travel to the US a few years later and the indignity of our treatment by the border guards was beyond belief. Even the more frequent visits to the UK were spoiled by the new security checks. But what really disturbs me is the Muslim hatred in the UK, reciprocated all the way. I can't see that getting any better in my lifetime. Until they stop burning the Union Flag and holding celebrations everytime a British soldier (irrespective of religion) is killed in Afghanistan it will not get better. So probably not even in your children's lifetime. kr |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9613671)
Nailed right on the head.
Truly amazing how their attitude changed once they suffered a dose of the same medicine.
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9613710)
:thumbup:my feelings too.
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 9613841)
I agree too, but if you say that you are immidiately accused of being racist.
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Re: The Big Anniversary
sorry, I hold you in respect - but not this time
Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench
(Post 9613582)
The differences between cultures will always be a source of excuse/reason to like or dislike others. Some things in one culture are abhorrent to others but the norm for those brought up in it. Your view of life in all ways/forms is your way not the way of all. Maybe if some cultures/people stopped thinking their way was the only way the world would be a better place. .
to live in a country where my ancestry goes back before the time we ruled France and be told by someone that I must integrate with them is when I lose my rag.
Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench
(Post 9613582)
I don't see the connection that leads to a disrespect of British law, it is their law that decided the way females are looked upon and treated, would you speak up if you were one of them and then possibly suffer the same fate or worse ? People live by their laws not by the laws of others, not many change their culture to that of the country they are living in if different from their home country. .
Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench
(Post 9613582)
The 'when in Rome' ethic is not applied by the majority, we, collectively, tend to live by our laws and complain loudly when dealt with in the laws of the country we have moved to.
If this country decided to eject all Brits but allow the Germans to stay, that would be wrong but we would still have to comply (as did the Jews in 1290) Brits have integrated and at least one has become mayor of a spanish town. if a group of people want to live in the Uk then they live under UK law. If they want to impose their "law" on the UK then they will fail. If they - irrespective of race, religion, creed or bumps on the head, - wish to live in the UK then they live there by the law of that land. To allow anything else is allow anarchy - and switch the lights off on your way out |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 9613940)
I think you have got this arse about face, the Honour killings are being carried out in the UK, as is the one where the parents have been arrested for murdering thier 17 year old daughter, so are you suggesting that the British people in the UK should up sticks,move and leave them to their ways, and they have not right to interfere?
That is way I read your post I obviously have been misunderstood. |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Domino I have as I said obviously been misunderstood. I said you should abide by the countries rules. IE people moving to UK should abide by that countries rules and culture. How I got misunderstood I do not know.
I had to laugh at "But they obey the laws !" some do many don't. |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 9614028)
I could give you a very full response to that but I won't as I expect I would be accused (not by you) of being racist. I live in a city with a large number of Muslims who use their religion "to advantage". It isnt just the Christians but also every other religious minority here that finds them totally impossible to deal with, telling everyone theirs is the religion of peace whilst practicing the opposite...
Until they stop burning the Union Flag and holding celebrations everytime a British soldier (irrespective of religion) is killed in Afghanistan it will not get better. So probably not even in your children's lifetime. kr |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 9614028)
telling everyone theirs is the religion of peace whilst practicing the opposite...
The Islamic conquests or Arab conquests began with the Islamic prophet Muhammad. 1 Byzantine–Arab Wars: 634–750 2 Conquest of Persia and Iraq: 633–651 3 Conquest of Transoxiana: 662–709 4 Conquest of Sindh: 664–712 5 Conquest of Hispania (711–718) and Septimania (719–720) 6 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711–750 7 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718–750 8 Conquest of Nubia: 700–1606 9 Incursions into southern Italy: 831–902 10 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060–1360 11 Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299–1453 12 Further conquests: 1200–1800 and it carries on today |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9614157)
The Islamic conquests or Arab conquests began with the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
1 Byzantine–Arab Wars: 634–750 2 Conquest of Persia and Iraq: 633–651 3 Conquest of Transoxiana: 662–709 4 Conquest of Sindh: 664–712 5 Conquest of Hispania (711–718) and Septimania (719–720) 6 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711–750 7 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718–750 8 Conquest of Nubia: 700–1606 9 Incursions into southern Italy: 831–902 10 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060–1360 11 Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299–1453 12 Further conquests: 1200–1800 and it carries on today When the crusaders conquered Jerusalem, they killed indescriminately, and the streets ran red. When Saladin conquered Jerusalem, everyone was told that they were free to go and worship where they pleased, and there would be no reprisals. It's not all black and white. |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9614177)
When the crusaders conquered Jerusalem, they killed indescriminately, and the streets ran red.
When Saladin conquered Jerusalem, everyone was told that they were free to go and worship where they pleased, and there would be no reprisals. It's not all black and white. |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9614193)
Unlike you bil I wasn't there so I can't comment
Given that you commented on all the early Muslim wars, can I take it that you were there ? |
Re: The Big Anniversary
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9614204)
I wasn't either, but my mate was. He said it was the biz.
Given that you commented on all the early Muslim wars, can I take it that you were there ? |
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