better quality of life
Jul 24th 2007, 5:54 pm
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Re: better quality of life
Ive got to the point if it goes tits up again try try again, i will try not to get it wrong this time, however we normally get most things wrong lol.
Mr N is more practical than me, if i had my way and my eldest was not going to do her gcse's i would just hop on a plane rent then worry about paying the rent when i get there lol.
But Mr N wants it done perfect now
Mr N is more practical than me, if i had my way and my eldest was not going to do her gcse's i would just hop on a plane rent then worry about paying the rent when i get there lol.
But Mr N wants it done perfect now
I have been talking to people for months about maybe going, and have spread the network net bloody wide, my OH even spoke to some friends who travel to Spain on competitions every year and got some contacts through them.
Dont get me wrong, we wont be coming out with a couple of grand, and we will be paying the years rent up front, but it wont be a fortune and it wont need to be, we live a very frugal life here in the UK.
Jul 24th 2007, 6:51 pm
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Re: better quality of life
I think the difficulty with this post is a definition of what constitutes a 'better quality of life'. This will mean entirely different things to different people.
Listening to Posh on TV she was definitely expecting a better quality of life in the USA.... and many would envy her life. I sincerely don't.
A life completely free from stress ?? Well get measured for that coffin...
It amuses me that some of the Chiclaneros head to Malaga and Fuengirola for their holidays.
A lot of common sense in the many replies.
However....
I was at a wedding in Folkestone this weekend. Wonderful venue on the cliffs looking over to France. Folkestone on the up. And yet there was something sleazy about it, that places like Chiclana or Tarifa if we want to compare with a busy port do not have. They can be a bit hick, have many tourists, but there is still a different atmosphere. Admittedly the weather helps. And Pete, in case you haven't realised, Spain had the smoking ban long before Britain..
Listening to Posh on TV she was definitely expecting a better quality of life in the USA.... and many would envy her life. I sincerely don't.
A life completely free from stress ?? Well get measured for that coffin...
It amuses me that some of the Chiclaneros head to Malaga and Fuengirola for their holidays.
A lot of common sense in the many replies.
However....
I was at a wedding in Folkestone this weekend. Wonderful venue on the cliffs looking over to France. Folkestone on the up. And yet there was something sleazy about it, that places like Chiclana or Tarifa if we want to compare with a busy port do not have. They can be a bit hick, have many tourists, but there is still a different atmosphere. Admittedly the weather helps. And Pete, in case you haven't realised, Spain had the smoking ban long before Britain..
Yes maybe it did but the Spanish people have balls !! Unlike the Brits , and ignore it most the time
Jul 24th 2007, 6:53 pm
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Re: better quality of life
couldnt agree more - but sometimes when I say this to people they think I am being negative or trying to put them off coming when thats not the case - we had a nice life in England both earning decent money and doing ok, we think sometimes to ourselves "what was we thinking moving to Spain" " why would anyone want to put themselves under this much pressure"
but there are lots of plus sides to living here but it all comes down to the fact that no one really knows what its like ( or even if Spain is for them) until they live here - in the 4 1/2 years we have been here we have seen so many people come and go and all the friends we made when we first arrived have left to go back
but there are lots of plus sides to living here but it all comes down to the fact that no one really knows what its like ( or even if Spain is for them) until they live here - in the 4 1/2 years we have been here we have seen so many people come and go and all the friends we made when we first arrived have left to go back
And more to the point why are you still there
Jul 24th 2007, 6:55 pm
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Re: better quality of life
Since I came back things I noticed so far:
* Stupid signs everywhere saying what you can and can't do!
* Horrible Weather
* Everyone looks like their chewing wasps or sucking on a lemmon.
* Expensive
* Horrible Beaches
* Unreliable transport
* Pigeons & seagulls
Pretty much it.
* Stupid signs everywhere saying what you can and can't do!
* Horrible Weather
* Everyone looks like their chewing wasps or sucking on a lemmon.
* Expensive
* Horrible Beaches
* Unreliable transport
* Pigeons & seagulls
Pretty much it.
Someones actually noticed ...
Jul 24th 2007, 6:58 pm
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Re: better quality of life
i dont think thats true spain! ive been going to spain quite a few years now and i know a quite alot of young and old people who live in spain and love there lives there yes they have to work and dont every one unless you are retired or are in the money, and yes they are not earning the big bucks they were earning in the uk but they are content with there lives and they have a better standard of living ! i know friends in the uk at the min who have got good work experience and good qualifications but they are struggling to get work so its as hard in uk to find work let alone spain , alot of the people on here know there is going to be pit falls when moving abroad and we all know its not going to be a walk in the park so lets not put a DOWNER 
on this thread and get back to what the thread is all about BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE Good post.Very soon job situation in UK will hit mega problems , so think the job issue will be tough in Uk also .. Now with money tight surely better to be out of work on a beach with sexy scantily clad women than a beach where you get messed on by seagulls
Jul 24th 2007, 7:04 pm
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Re: better quality of life
i dont think thats true spain! ive been going to spain quite a few years now and i know a quite alot of young and old people who live in spain and love there lives there yes they have to work and dont every one unless you are retired or are in the money, and yes they are not earning the big bucks they were earning in the uk but they are content with there lives and they have a better standard of living ! i know friends in the uk at the min who have got good work experience and good qualifications but they are struggling to get work so its as hard in uk to find work let alone spain , alot of the people on here know there is going to be pit falls when moving abroad and we all know its not going to be a walk in the park so lets not put a DOWNER on this thread and get back to what the thread is all about BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE
Jul 24th 2007, 7:07 pm
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Re: better quality of life
Im not putting a downer on the thread just being realistic
when you have lived in Spain for a couple of years come back and let us know your experiences
"quality of life" is what you make it where ever you live but as I have said in the short time we have been here a very high percentage of people have gone back to UK . so obviously their quality of life was not what the expected !!!! thats a fact
key factors are
the language - even fluent Spanish speakers find it difficult to find a relatively good job
work - as above and if you do find work, wages and hours are often crap
cheaper living costs - hmmm well thats debateful, fags, booze, road tax, council tax, eating out all cheaper - but the wages reflect that and what about the things that are more expensive
anyway, I wish you well in your move to Spain and hope it all turns out as you expected
when you have lived in Spain for a couple of years come back and let us know your experiences
"quality of life" is what you make it where ever you live but as I have said in the short time we have been here a very high percentage of people have gone back to UK . so obviously their quality of life was not what the expected !!!! thats a fact
key factors are
the language - even fluent Spanish speakers find it difficult to find a relatively good job
work - as above and if you do find work, wages and hours are often crap
cheaper living costs - hmmm well thats debateful, fags, booze, road tax, council tax, eating out all cheaper - but the wages reflect that and what about the things that are more expensive
anyway, I wish you well in your move to Spain and hope it all turns out as you expected
Whats more expensive then ? lets have a laugh seeings as you just listed ;
fags £ 4 per pack cheaper
booze half price
road tax and fuels cheaper
Council taxes £ 1600 a year cheaper !!! approx £ 30 a week cheaper ..
eating out and food cheaper
So what is dearer ?
£ 30 a week better off in Council tax
£ 35 a week better off if you smoke only 30 a day
£ 20 a week better off if you only have a few pints ,few days a week
£ 6 a week in car tax better off
£ 18 a week better off in Road Fuels using car daily small journeys
£ 25 a week cheaper on average shop
£ 129 a week !!!! better off the moment i land in Mallorca hmmm a tough decision sun sea boat villa and cheap living hmmmmmm heck what a tough one
But Damn whats dearer by £ 129 a week
so please tell ...
Jul 24th 2007, 7:10 pm
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Re: better quality of life
spain i under stand where you are coming from ! you are right quality of life is what you make it from where ever you come from understandable ! but i feel are country is a very expensive country to live in and the quality of life is not exactly great i feel you have to work long hours here to get any where oh and before you say i konw you will work longer hours in spain ,in the uk the weather is crap the people are always moaning to much crime i could go on , but like we have said on here time and time again you will never know if spains is for you unless you try it !
Jul 24th 2007, 7:11 pm
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Jul 24th 2007, 7:12 pm
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Jul 24th 2007, 7:19 pm
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Jul 24th 2007, 7:21 pm
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Jul 24th 2007, 7:48 pm
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