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astera May 10th 2024 1:00 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by bob_day (Post 13252800)
However it is more complicated to set up as you have to change dnsserver settings in your router or the device you want to watch tv on. In some cases this may not even be possible due to providors locking down the supplied router.
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A vpn app on the other hand. Install app, select country, hit connect. Job done and hello eastenders, corrie or whatever..

I dunno, DNS seems simpler to me because you don't need to install anything. No app, nothing. And you don't need to remember to connect/disconnect each time.

All you need to do is go into the Apple TV settings, select DNS and input a number like 123.123.123.123. That's it. :)

I use a VPN for non-tv purposes but that's mostly on a laptop and phone. As you mentioned they are easy to install and use but I generally watch tv on the big screen, hence the Apple TV device.

Which VPN do you use for streaming? Also, are you happy with smartdnsproxy? I use getflix but people I know also use dns4me and both are currently working fine, but it's good to know of other available options in case any of these companies stops delivering...

bob_day May 10th 2024 11:24 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 13252850)
I dunno, DNS seems simpler to me because you don't need to install anything. No app, nothing. And you don't need to remember to connect/disconnect each time.

All you need to do is go into the Apple TV settings, select DNS and input a number like 123.123.123.123. That's it. :)

I use a VPN for non-tv purposes but that's mostly on a laptop and phone. As you mentioned they are easy to install and use but I generally watch tv on the big screen, hence the Apple TV device.

Which VPN do you use for streaming? Also, are you happy with smartdnsproxy? I use getflix but people I know also use dns4me and both are currently working fine, but it's good to know of other available options in case any of these companies stops delivering...


TBH have virtually zero experience of Apple stuff, but what you describe looks easy enough.

I slso watch TV on a large screen, which happens to also be smart, but I only use it as a display fed by a 4k Firestick.

Regarding dns redirection I have for a few years used smartdnsproxy. The dns servers are set on my router. I don't watch the UK players much, mostly watching uk tv with teeveeing, which doesn't require redirection.

At the moment I leave the vpn on the firestick connected permanently, and have it set load and connect automatically at boot time. It doesn't appear to have a detremental effect on video streaming so leaving it connected saves me having to connect it when it's needed.

This being the case the DNS redirection is pretty much refundant. But I'm some way through a 3 year license so may as well leave it configured. Smartdnsproxy also has vpn which I used occasionally , but unfortunately not supported on the firestick. Because of this Ive just signed with windscribe. Which I must admit has some useful additional features. So much so that I now have it installed on tablets and phone, again permanently connected. Tablets to UK and phone to Spain.. There are apps which won't work via vpn, so I configure Windscribe to allow certain trusted apps to bypass the vpn.


astera May 11th 2024 2:21 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by bob_day (Post 13252872)
I slso watch TV on a large screen, which happens to also be smart, but I only use it as a display fed by a 4k Firestick.
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At the moment I leave the vpn on the firestick connected permanently, and have it set load and connect automatically at boot time. It doesn't appear to have a detremental effect on video streaming so leaving it connected saves me having to connect it when it's needed.

That looks like a very tidy setup, directly on a 4K Firestick with automatic loading+connecting. Nice one. :)

I have a few Chromecasts around the house but they're starting to bother me so I'm phasing two of them out in favour of Apple TV devices. Got one running... too lazy to unpack the other. Need to give the Firestick a go as well as I think it can do both VPN and DNS.

For viewing TV I also went with DNS because I often switch between UK and Australian TV apps, and here I don't need to make any changes on my side because the DNS provider handles all that from their end. Plus I have one of those lifetime subscriptions from getflix so I might as well make the most of it... :)


in2deep May 11th 2024 3:18 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
I have ExpressVPN free version on here. It gets some bad reviews above, but it does all I need it to do, and has done so without issue for the last few years, horses for courses as they say.

bob_day May 11th 2024 3:52 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 13252893)
That looks like a very tidy setup, directly on a 4K Firestick with automatic loading+connecting. Nice one. :)

I have a few Chromecasts around the house but they're starting to bother me so I'm phasing two of them out in favour of Apple TV devices. Got one running... too lazy to unpack the other. Need to give the Firestick a go as well as I think it can do both VPN and DNS.

For viewing TV I also went with DNS because I often switch between UK and Australian TV apps, and here I don't need to make any changes on my side because the DNS provider handles all that from their end. Plus I have one of those lifetime subscriptions from getflix so I might as well make the most of it... :)

Setup works well for me. The downside of the firestick is limited memory which cannot be expanded with an SD card. So downloading from Prime or Nexflix to view offline isn't an option.

Limited experience of Chromecasts. Had one briefly, it didn't do what i wanted so sold it...

Australian TV. Anything decent to watch on there? Often I find that I have 100+ channels and nothing i want to watch. Might be worth investigating. What app(s) do you use? Like you with getflix i have a 3 year subscription with smartdnsproxy, which was on offer for $30 or thereabouts.. Works great for UK geolocked players, and I assume it'll work for other countries..

astera May 11th 2024 5:31 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by bob_day (Post 13252909)
Australian TV. Anything decent to watch on there?

Mainly UK tv shows :) , many of which are easier to find on free-to-air on-demand streaming apps. I watched the political thriller/drama COBRA season 2 just the other week which I believe streams on Sky in the uk.


Originally Posted by bob_day (Post 13252909)
Often I find that I have 100+ channels and nothing i want to watch. Might be worth investigating. What app(s) do you use? Like you with getflix i have a 3 year subscription with smartdnsproxy, which was on offer for $30 or thereabouts.. Works great for UK geolocked players, and I assume it'll work for other countries..

I rarely watch live tv unless it's sports or some major event that warrants my attention. Although I have some subscriptions to the likes of Disney+ or Amazon Prime (among a few others) I usually use the UK/AU free streaming apps as they have the shows that interest me most.

BristolUK May 11th 2024 7:32 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by bob_day (Post 13252909)
Australian TV. Anything decent to watch on there?..


Originally Posted by astera (Post 13252925)
Mainly UK tv shows :) ...

And some very good Nordic stuff too.
SBS sends me an email twice a week plugging what's new or returning.
Very useful for discovering things of interest that I may not have heard of or for alerting me to later seasons of shows I've been watching.

astera May 11th 2024 12:17 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13252949)
And some very good Nordic stuff too.
SBS sends me an email twice a week plugging what's new or returning.
Very useful for discovering things of interest that I may not have heard of or for alerting me to later seasons of shows I've been watching.

Very true. There are some good Australian productions there too, but overall you'll find lots of quality material from all over the world, including the Nordics as well as many other European countries (France, Poland, etc., etc., etc.). Especially on SBS.

OH4BCN Jun 12th 2024 9:55 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
Nord VPN gets good reviews but my experience was negative. It slowed my laptop down and didn't work either in terms of accessing BBC content or duping job portals into thinking I was in an English speaking country, the two primary goals.

astera Jun 12th 2024 10:36 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by OH4BCN (Post 13257771)
didn't work either in terms of accessing BBC content or duping job portals into thinking I was in an English speaking country, the two primary goals.

What country did you set the VPN to? It's not enough to pretend to be in "an English speaking country." You need to set it to the UK, not elsewhere.

OH4BCN Jun 12th 2024 10:45 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 13257787)
What country did you set the VPN to? It's not enough to pretend to be in "an English speaking country." You need to set it to the UK, not elsewhere.

Hi, to clarify I did set it to UK but certain portals (eg in AI annotation) seem wise to VPNs and block access to everyone outside UK, US and Commonwealth which is frustrating when you're physically in Spain but looking for online work in English

astera Jun 12th 2024 11:11 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
VPNs can easily be caught out, that's true.

Best quick solution would be to use a UK SIM card to access data on a roaming basis, as that would show you as being in the UK. Should be quite easy to register to get an eSIM so you wouldn't actually have to get your hands on a physical SIM card.

Notdunroamin Jun 14th 2024 8:20 pm

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
Spain, along with Poland, are the two most liberal countries in the world when it comes to downloading.

https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/torre...pdate-country/

There is also this which is from April this year.

https://allaboutcookies.org/are-torr...s%20forbidden.

I torrent quite a lot sin VPN, I do use SmartDNSProxy for viewing UK tv on a pair of Firesticks plus other devices (no limit), hard to set up it isn't.


Originally Posted by jackteet (Post 13252646)
I am not interested in free VPN`s cos many of then use your wifi when you are not online for other customers.

I don't know who spoon fed you that crap because that's what it it.

Ignoring hackers sitting outside your house - of which there is less than a zero percent chance - the only people who can use your WiFi are those who are both in actual range of it and have been granted access by you by giving them the PW!



DLC Jun 15th 2024 3:45 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
The poster I suspect meant internet connection, and there are many free VPNs that do let other VPN users use your internet connection as well as you theirs. That's how they manage to be free which is great but you have no idea who's using your network connection to do what. See the posts at the beginning of this thread.

Notdunroamin Jun 15th 2024 6:49 am

Re: best VPN for an idiot
 
Even with a VPN when torrenting, or to give it it's correct name Peer to Peer (P2P) sharing, means that as you download what you're downloading is automatically made available to other users to download from you and other users.
That's how the torrents work and the only control you have over it is to disconnect from your torrent client when your download is finished. Once you do that nobody has any access to your internet connection. A VPN cannot of itself 'share' your connection.

BTW all the UK tv services we enjoy on our Firesticks or by IPTV service are by P2P!


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