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MikeJ Oct 19th 2018 8:51 pm

Bathroom conversion
 
We are in the very early planning stage of replacing the bath in one or both of our bathrooms with walk-in showers. We never use the tub except to stand in for a shower so replacing it seems to be a no brainer. We have seen example projects in Leroy Merlin in Loule and the cost seems manageable.
Has anyone in CE done this? If so have you any hints or tips? Any drawbacks or unforeseen problems?
Thanx for any advice.

Jon-Bxl Oct 19th 2018 9:31 pm

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 12580481)
We are in the very early planning stage of replacing the bath in one or both of our bathrooms with walk-in showers. We never use the tub except to stand in for a shower so replacing it seems to be a no brainer. We have seen example projects in Leroy Merlin in Loule and the cost seems manageable.
Has anyone in CE done this? If so have you any hints or tips? Any drawbacks or unforeseen problems?
Thanx for any advice.

The prez of the MC would be a good start. Also the (other) Francisco can do it. The unless you want to do it DIY

Jon.

jean&john Oct 20th 2018 3:55 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 
Try the bathroom show room Proveedora de la Costa Sil just south of Lepe they have displays and the products look a good quality and they may be able to direct you to a good fontanero

keithBT Oct 20th 2018 4:42 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 
Mike, I've been thinking of same in main bathroom of duplex on ME. My concern was when the bath tub comes out and the shower tray goes in you have to make good the tiling down to the tray. The pale green tiles look dated anyway IMO. Did to plan to retile the entire room with something more modern ?? If so I question if the old tiles will come off easily without breaking up the plasterboard ( dry lining) or whether you simply retile over the top???? A duplex on Manzana 2 had both bathrooms done last year and looking at the skip it seemed the builders replaced all the dry lining. The old tiles were still attached to the plasterboard that had been ripped out. Quite a lot of work to do oneself I think.

EsuriJohn Oct 20th 2018 5:31 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 12580481)
We are in the very early planning stage of replacing the bath in one or both of our bathrooms with walk-in showers. We never use the tub except to stand in for a shower so replacing it seems to be a no brainer. We have seen example projects in Leroy Merlin in Loule and the cost seems manageable.
Has anyone in CE done this? If so have you any hints or tips? Any drawbacks or unforeseen problems?
Thanx for any advice.

My hint and tip is to speak to Esuri John he can give you great leads show you examples of workmanship and recommend places to get products. Done a similar project myself kept cost low and quality very high!

Fred James Oct 20th 2018 6:22 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 
Make the cubicle as big as possible. Often it is better to get a builder to build one rather than buying a cubicle.

If your water pressure is not high, think about getting a pump put into the supply so you get a really powerful jet.

A friend has just put one in and it is big enough to have a built in seat to cater for the time when you will need to shower sitting down. It will come to us all eventually!

MikeJ Oct 20th 2018 7:16 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by keithBT (Post 12580602)
Mike, I've been thinking of same in main bathroom of duplex on ME. My concern was when the bath tub comes out and the shower tray goes in you have to make good the tiling down to the tray. The pale green tiles look dated anyway IMO. Did to plan to retile the entire room with something more modern ?? If so I question if the old tiles will come off easily without breaking up the plasterboard ( dry lining) or whether you simply retile over the top???? A duplex on Manzana 2 had both bathrooms done last year and looking at the skip it seemed the builders replaced all the dry lining. The old tiles were still attached to the plasterboard that had been ripped out. Quite a lot of work to do oneself I think.

The OH hates the tiles so will replace at least round the shower if not all. I was also a bit concerned about the walls. The apartment opposite is just taking out the kitchen tiles and it looks like they are taking off a lot of the dry lini g too.
I'm not planning a DIY but will get a man in. I have some experience of tanking a shower room and I wouldn't know where to start sourcing the specialist bits. Looks like I might need a bigger budget 🤔

MikeJ Oct 20th 2018 7:18 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12580636)
Make the cubicle as big as possible. Often it is better to get a builder to build one rather than buying a cubicle.

If your water pressure is not high, think about getting a pump put into the supply so you get a really powerful jet.

A friend has just put one in and it is big enough to have a built in seat to cater for the time when you will need to shower sitting down. It will come to us all eventually!

Good point Fred about the seat. I am thinking wet room approach rather than cubicle at the moment.

keithBT Oct 20th 2018 8:02 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 
Mike, For what it's worth, I rejigged my kitchen using the same units plus a new carcase for a eye level oven. I retiled over the top of the old tiles very sucessfully. I bought the tiles at the polygono tile warehouse and the proper fixing cement for going on top old tiles. Cement was 4 times the price of the cheap stuff at about 16 euros a bog. - BUT it works !! PS. If the apartment opposite has a couple of kitchen base unit doors they are ditching - would you mind grabbing them !!!! ( circa 50/55mm wide). I'm out next month.

EsuriJohn Oct 20th 2018 8:15 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 12580652)
Good point Fred about the seat. I am thinking wet room approach rather than cubicle at the moment.

we have a seat in our walk in but you do need a solid wall to attach it to, stud walls would be no good unless you are extremely lucky with the position of the studding and it is well secured in the first place.

Jon-Bxl Oct 20th 2018 5:21 pm

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 12580621)

My hint and tip is to speak to Esuri John he can give you great leads show you examples of workmanship and recommend places to get products. Done a similar project myself kept cost low and quality very high!

;)
Looking for a new career in politics John?
Jon
:)

PS I once tanked out a walk in shower, and used lead, also it needed a professional plumber. But it was pricey. I believe there are newer merhods now (it was over 20 years ago).
PPS Though Ive never done it, I've seen specialist tile paint for bathrooms used to good effect on home renovation prorgammes

shirley and anthony hide Oct 20th 2018 8:45 pm

Re: Bathroom conversion
 
Not sure where you would get them in Spain, but you can buy acrylic sheet shower panels here on the UK from many companies that are tongue and grooved . They are completely waterproof and would just be stuck over the existing tiles. They come in loads of colours too.

EsuriJohn Oct 20th 2018 9:53 pm

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 12580806)
Not sure where you would get them in Spain, but you can buy acrylic sheet shower panels here on the UK from many companies that are tongue and grooved . They are completely waterproof and would just be stuck over the existing tiles. They come in loads of colours too.

Have a look at this website:-
https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co....s-1000mm.html/

there are other makes and I think this is the cheaper end of the market but you can get almost any finish in U.K. My son in law (plumber) uses them in conversions from bath to walk in shower for the elderly. I think you might have two problems putting them over tiles 1) the surface would not be even to the floor where the bath has been removed and 2) you might get interstitial condensation behind the panel which could be a breeding ground for mould and we all know how difficult that can be in our winter climate here.

The Spanish have been tiling for centuries so they know a thing or two about finishes.

shirley and anthony hide Oct 21st 2018 4:06 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 12580846)


Have a look at this website:-
https://www.interiorpanelsystems.co....s-1000mm.html/

there are other makes and I think this is the cheaper end of the market but you can get almost any finish in U.K. My son in law (plumber) uses them in conversions from bath to walk in shower for the elderly. I think you might have two problems putting them over tiles 1) the surface would not be even to the floor where the bath has been removed and 2) you might get interstitial condensation behind the panel which could be a breeding ground for mould and we all know how difficult that can be in our winter climate here.

The Spanish have been tiling for centuries so they know a thing or two about finishes.

True, but then you could just dot and dab board equivalent to thickness of tiles above down to the floor, then seal it. The panels come with finishing strips for the edges ,so as long as you seal those properly with waterproof acrylic then no moisture should be able to get behind.

Dxf Oct 21st 2018 4:41 am

Re: Bathroom conversion
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12580636)
Make the cubicle as big as possible. Often it is better to get a builder to build one rather than buying a cubicle.

If your water pressure is not high, think about getting a pump put into the supply so you get a really powerful jet.

A friend has just put one in and it is big enough to have a built in seat to cater for the time when you will need to shower sitting down. It will come to us all eventually!

Hola
You took the words right out of my mouth - I had my bath taken out and a 3 metre by one metre shower to replace it. When the time comes then a proper shower chair will be purchased and stored at the other end of the shower. My water is pumped from the well so that was OK but the fall of the water needs to be thought out and for that reason, I step up four inches to get into the shower.

Davexf


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