Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
Jun 19th 2008, 1:08 pm
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Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
Ok, I am just about to move in on Monday and there is no Sky TV, I have a old style sky+ box, I have been told various things about the size of dish I will need for Astra D, (1.8Mtr is reccomended - but might not be enough) can anybody here confirm exactly what size I will need.
I guess generally anybody in Torre, ~Guadamar, Rojales or even alicante area would be able to advise me here with what you have ?
many thanks in advance
I guess generally anybody in Torre, ~Guadamar, Rojales or even alicante area would be able to advise me here with what you have ?
many thanks in advance
Jun 19th 2008, 1:24 pm
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
I have a 1.8 and that does us more or less (for SKY). Any bigger and the house would lift off in high winds
We lose BBC1 & ITV later in the evening depending on the weather
Have a search on here for sat reception we've covered it before
We lose BBC1 & ITV later in the evening depending on the weather
Have a search on here for sat reception we've covered it before
Jun 19th 2008, 2:30 pm
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
Mi Casa is not far from there, up by La Finca. I had a chap round earlier in the year to look over our system. He advised that a 2.4m dish or larger was required.
As I do not fancy something that big on my roof or in my garden, I declined.
I have an 80cm dish which will pick up BBC News 24 and Channel 5's' "five US" and Sky sports 3, I think its 3 anyway..
I'm happy with that as it is only a holiday home at present.
As I do not fancy something that big on my roof or in my garden, I declined.
I have an 80cm dish which will pick up BBC News 24 and Channel 5's' "five US" and Sky sports 3, I think its 3 anyway..
I'm happy with that as it is only a holiday home at present.
Jun 19th 2008, 2:33 pm
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
Ok, I am just about to move in on Monday and there is no Sky TV, I have a old style sky+ box, I have been told various things about the size of dish I will need for Astra D, (1.8Mtr is reccomended - but might not be enough) can anybody here confirm exactly what size I will need.
I guess generally anybody in Torre, ~Guadamar, Rojales or even alicante area would be able to advise me here with what you have ?
many thanks in advance
I guess generally anybody in Torre, ~Guadamar, Rojales or even alicante area would be able to advise me here with what you have ?
many thanks in advance
keep and try your sky+ box before you buy another one here in spain - you may find it performs better than one that an installer sells you! i have known installers take a perfectly good digibox (pace 2600) from a couple and selling them an inferior model (430N)!
Jun 19th 2008, 2:34 pm
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i hope that you mean sky three, and not sky sports 3, otherwise you have a very special FTV card!!!!
Jun 19th 2008, 2:51 pm
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although not in your area, i think a 1,8m would be be sufficient. but the best thing is to go hunting aorund the neighbours - see how smaller or bigger dishes perform - channel 4 around countdown time is a tricky one to get, and obviously bbc2 and bbc1 during the evening. they will also be able to provide you with recommendations rather than picking an installers from the paper!
keep and try your sky+ box before you buy another one here in spain - you may find it performs better than one that an installer sells you! i have known installers take a perfectly good digibox (pace 2600) from a couple and selling them an inferior model (430N)!
keep and try your sky+ box before you buy another one here in spain - you may find it performs better than one that an installer sells you! i have known installers take a perfectly good digibox (pace 2600) from a couple and selling them an inferior model (430N)!
Thanks for the informative posts, I have no intentions of getting somebody to install it, im pretty confident of doing that myself, I did have my own business unit premisies at the UK and fitted my own dish up there, this is a bit more complicated but I should be competent enough.
Jun 19th 2008, 2:59 pm
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
Hi
Thanks for the informative posts, I have no intentions of getting somebody to install it, im pretty confident of doing that myself, I did have my own business unit premisies at the UK and fitted my own dish up there, this is a bit more complicated but I should be competent enough.
Thanks for the informative posts, I have no intentions of getting somebody to install it, im pretty confident of doing that myself, I did have my own business unit premisies at the UK and fitted my own dish up there, this is a bit more complicated but I should be competent enough.
make sure that any dish is secure - big dishes ideally need to be on the floor (bolted into concrete), or fixed securely to a wall, preferably in an area not affected by the wind.
Jun 19th 2008, 4:51 pm
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We have a lot of strong high winds here in Quesada, especially if you're up the top like me.
We had a 1.8 mtr dish bolted to the wall for 3 years. Last year we moved it onto a lump of concrete onto the solarium and bolted it down. The next strong wind blew it down onto it's face and buckled it beyond repair. We admitted defeat after 3 years of No BBC 2 and most uk terrestrial programmes pixilating after 9pm.
Now we have a rebroadcast system with an 80mtr dish from a local supplier. Got the basic package, with all terrestrial channels except CH 5, and all the sky channels (except sport , my choice).
If you want to be able to see programmes without any problems you really need a 2.4mtr dish here.
We had a 1.8 mtr dish bolted to the wall for 3 years. Last year we moved it onto a lump of concrete onto the solarium and bolted it down. The next strong wind blew it down onto it's face and buckled it beyond repair. We admitted defeat after 3 years of No BBC 2 and most uk terrestrial programmes pixilating after 9pm.
Now we have a rebroadcast system with an 80mtr dish from a local supplier. Got the basic package, with all terrestrial channels except CH 5, and all the sky channels (except sport , my choice).
If you want to be able to see programmes without any problems you really need a 2.4mtr dish here.
Jun 19th 2008, 6:41 pm
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We have a lot of strong high winds here in Quesada, especially if you're up the top like me.
We had a 1.8 mtr dish bolted to the wall for 3 years. Last year we moved it onto a lump of concrete onto the solarium and bolted it down. The next strong wind blew it down onto it's face and buckled it beyond repair. We admitted defeat after 3 years of No BBC 2 and most uk terrestrial programmes pixilating after 9pm.
Now we have a rebroadcast system with an 80mtr dish from a local supplier. Got the basic package, with all terrestrial channels except CH 5, and all the sky channels (except sport , my choice).
If you want to be able to see programmes without any problems you really need a 2.4mtr dish here.
We had a 1.8 mtr dish bolted to the wall for 3 years. Last year we moved it onto a lump of concrete onto the solarium and bolted it down. The next strong wind blew it down onto it's face and buckled it beyond repair. We admitted defeat after 3 years of No BBC 2 and most uk terrestrial programmes pixilating after 9pm.
Now we have a rebroadcast system with an 80mtr dish from a local supplier. Got the basic package, with all terrestrial channels except CH 5, and all the sky channels (except sport , my choice).
If you want to be able to see programmes without any problems you really need a 2.4mtr dish here.
Jun 19th 2008, 6:59 pm
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Avenida Costa Azul is the next road to mine, so welcome to Quesada, hope everything goes well for you on Monday!!
Jun 19th 2008, 10:12 pm
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It is not just the size of the dish that is important but the quality and fact that it is not bent or otherwise misshapen. A dish that is not a perfect parabola can lose a lot of the available signal. A 1,8 Channel Master, for example, will deliver far better results than a larger dish of inferior quality but will probably cost two or three times the price. The quality and noise figure of the LNB and the sensitivity of the tuner of the satellite receiver are equally important.
Exact alignment of the dish and skew of the LNB are also important and this can only be achieved with a proper spectrum analyser rather than just relying on the signal strength and quality shown on the receiver.
Exact alignment of the dish and skew of the LNB are also important and this can only be achieved with a proper spectrum analyser rather than just relying on the signal strength and quality shown on the receiver.
Jun 19th 2008, 10:40 pm
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
It is not just the size of the dish that is important but the quality and fact that it is not bent or otherwise misshapen. A dish that is not a perfect parabola can lose a lot of the available signal. A 1,8 Channel Master, for example, will deliver far better results than a larger dish of inferior quality but will probably cost two or three times the price. The quality and noise figure of the LNB and the sensitivity of the tuner of the satellite receiver are equally important.
Exact alignment of the dish and skew of the LNB are also important and this can only be achieved with a proper spectrum analyser rather than just relying on the signal strength and quality shown on the receiver.
Exact alignment of the dish and skew of the LNB are also important and this can only be achieved with a proper spectrum analyser rather than just relying on the signal strength and quality shown on the receiver.
Jun 20th 2008, 6:15 am
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
the fortecstar 2.4 petalised dish is made up of 6 sections that you bolt together to make up the dish. these must be done absolutly perfectly. but even then one installer says that he cost of these dishes (about 300euros) relects the poor quality of them - he says they perform about as good as a 1.4m dish (which having seen a few i can agree with!)
a solid dish is manufactured by being pressed aluminium, and is one piece - this is how the portuguese dishes are made. some other dishes are made by welding two halves together, which in most cases i have seen is not perfectly done!
a solid dish is manufactured by being pressed aluminium, and is one piece - this is how the portuguese dishes are made. some other dishes are made by welding two halves together, which in most cases i have seen is not perfectly done!
Jun 20th 2008, 9:48 am
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Re: Astra 2D and Size of dish needed for Ciudiad Quesada
the fortecstar 2.4 petalised dish is made up of 6 sections that you bolt together to make up the dish. these must be done absolutly perfectly. but even then one installer says that he cost of these dishes (about 300euros) relects the poor quality of them - he says they perform about as good as a 1.4m dish (which having seen a few i can agree with!)
a solid dish is manufactured by being pressed aluminium, and is one piece - this is how the portuguese dishes are made. some other dishes are made by welding two halves together, which in most cases i have seen is not perfectly done!
a solid dish is manufactured by being pressed aluminium, and is one piece - this is how the portuguese dishes are made. some other dishes are made by welding two halves together, which in most cases i have seen is not perfectly done!
Are large 1.8m+ Solid Dishes expensive to buy in Spain