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Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 9436684)
You know that you did your best for your poor old dog and it is great that a vet can do this for an animal and many of us want that option for humans. However, as I said before it does not matter how for it I am I do not think that I could actually help someone.
People who assist have to be very strong. I am not talking about the person who administers an overdose of morphine or whatever but the person who helps the dying person to fullfil their wishes by doing the organising. For me I think that I would always feel guilty for making the arrangements and this would then add to the grieving process. So although I am for assisted dying I am against being the helper. Rosemary |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 9436684)
You know that you did your best for your poor old dog and it is great that a vet can do this for an animal and many of us want that option for humans. However, as I said before it does not matter how for it I am I do not think that I could actually help someone.
People who assist have to be very strong. I am not talking about the person who administers an overdose of morphine or whatever but the person who helps the dying person to fullfil their wishes by doing the organising. For me I think that I would always feel guilty for making the arrangements and this would then add to the grieving process. So although I am for assisted dying I am against being the helper. Rosemary I don't think it is always just down to pain control, either. Sometimes people must get just so sick of not being able to do anything but lie in a hospital bed and be dependent on others for every bodily function, I know I would find that intolerable. |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by Lynn R
(Post 9437237)
I don't think it is always just down to pain control, either. Sometimes people must get just so sick of not being able to do anything but lie in a hospital bed and be dependent on others for every bodily function, I know I would find that intolerable.
Rosemary I think that if they had said that they could give her something to quicken things up he would have accepted but withdrawing the basics seemed so cruel. |
Re: Assisted dying.
The trouble with legalising euthanasia in the UK is that both the Church of England and the Catholic Church are opposed to it. The Churches influence is waning, as is the Monarchy's, but I can't personally think of suitable alternatives.
So we muddle along, listen to the Archbishop's speech and applaud Royal weddings. Pockets of opinion support more freedom, but they are muted, the majority of our people don't care about issues like euthanasia and pensioners going skint, the future is new life and council houses for single mothers. Maybe that's how it should be? |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by gretty
(Post 9436690)
That is truly disturbing. One cannot know whether to allow it or not to allow it because of religious reasons usually. I admit that I am even scared to think about death.
The truly religious (which I'm not) don't have to be involved in it in any way at all, but by the same token they have no right to try to stop others getting help to end their suffering if that is what they wish to do! As for dying it holds no fear for me, but dying in great pain and without dignity and control does. If we love someone enough then we have to let them go, doing that one final thing for them takes great strength....but an even greater love! |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9437550)
The trouble with legalising euthanasia in the UK is that both the Church of England and the Catholic Church are opposed to it. The Churches influence is waning, as is the Monarchy's, but I can't personally think of suitable alternatives.
So we muddle along, listen to the Archbishop's speech and applaud Royal weddings. Pockets of opinion support more freedom, but they are muted, the majority of our people don't care about issues like euthanasia and pensioners going skint, the future is new life and council houses for single mothers. Maybe that's how it should be? |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9439493)
No. We should have the right to choose.
What makes these people who "have religion" think they have the right to impose their views on those of us that don't? Have they learned nothing from the empty pews and derelict churches....their day of dictating how we should all think feel and act are long gone! |
Re: Assisted dying.
Originally Posted by megmet
(Post 9440104)
I wholeheartedly agree Bil...
What makes these people who "have religion" think they have the right to impose their views on those of us that don't? Have they learned nothing from the empty pews and derelict churches....their day of dictating how we should all think feel and act are long gone! |
Re: Assisted dying.
It was during my first few months in Spain that the doctors from the Severo Ochoa hospital in Madrid were suspended over allegations of malpractice for providing palliative care. They were accused of the "homicide" of hundreds of patients.
They were cleared but if I remember rightly they never got their jobs back. It's one of those news stories I will never forget and if there is such a thing as karmic justice, then those who made the accusations and brought the charges will die horrible lingering deaths with no hope of relief. |
Re: Assisted dying.
Apart from posting the link, I don't really have much to add.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sick-wife.html It seems that wealthy and intelligent people are more able to deal with major problems, but the internet is there for all of us. I curse it sometimes, worrying what my seven-year-grandson might find, but the couple in the quoted article found what they wanted and I can only sympathise. |
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