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Old May 15th 2013 | 11:19 pm
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
Yes there are failed projects in all countries. The new UK high speed train will be totally useless benefit when costs are calculated. However, most countries did not get huge sums of money from the EU to waste! That road is just the tip of the iceburg, there are some in Andalucía too. Add all the others, Airports, exhibition centres, hospitals built but can't afford to open...all with EU money.
The UK does get money from the EU for infrastructure projects. I even saw a big building in Wandsworth built with EU funds. And here are just a couple of EU-funded projects:

Transport Minister Danny Kennedy has secured European Regional Development funding of £2.44million towards the £3.6m cost of the redevelopment of Portadown Railway station.
http://www.translink.co.uk/Services/...ilway-Station/
Three projects to improve vital freight and passenger links on the railway network are to receive €14m (£11m) from the European Commission.
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/20...ight-projects/

There are other examples, but there again, as a net contributor it's hard to argue against receiving some of the money back? I do wonder if the UK could perhaps get more investment with a different approach..
 
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Originally Posted by Domino
sounds fine Stevie, but you are probably talking about commercially available software, whereas those 2 companies only exist because they sell their own non-compatible bespoke software. There is no competition and they hold everyone to ransom.
Well yes, can't disagree with you there.
 
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Talking of Spain's failed projects, this one takes a bit of beating surely.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/08/...50_776450.html

They may well go down, but will they ever come back up again ?
 
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
Talking of Spain's failed projects, this one takes a bit of beating surely.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/08/...50_776450.html

They may well go down, but will they ever come back up again ?
Did you hear about the UK Navy jet that can't land at night?
 
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Did you hear about the UK Navy jet that can't land at night?
did you hear about the wag that came back from a pub tour to alter the display board outside an RNAS station stating
All weather fighter squadron
by adding
But fair weather pilots

I think he was a bit close to the problem.


but then if you wanted to investigate the most dangerous jobs in the world, flying an aircraft off a carrier comes near the top, but definitley below landing on a carrier, but seperated by actually not flying but moving the aircraft around inside and outside the hangars and preparing for and carrying out the preparation for takeoff and landing.
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
Did you hear about the UK Navy jet that can't land at night?
Ha ha or should that be Haw Haw ?

Spain's failed projects is the topic by the way, just in case you hadn't noticed, so no real shortage of suitable material there I would have thought.
 
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Originally Posted by Domino
did you hear about the wag that came back from a pub tour to alter the display board outside an RNAS station stating
All weather fighter squadron
by adding
But fair weather pilots

I think he was a bit close to the problem.


but then if you wanted to investigate the most dangerous jobs in the world, flying an aircraft off a carrier comes near the top, but definitley below landing on a carrier, but seperated by actually not flying but moving the aircraft around inside and outside the hangars and preparing for and carrying out the preparation for takeoff and landing.
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I was always under the impression that working on a fishing boat was the most dangerous job to do? Still at least, it's mainly Spanish and Russians who do that nowadays?
But yes, I can imagine landing on an aircraft carrier needs a bit of concentration, especially when the sea is choppy - which it often is!
 
Old May 16th 2013 | 4:26 am
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The worst example I can think of, is the £11 billion down the drain when the NHS IT project was cancelled. There again, over £20 billion is spent every year on housing benefits, but at least that subsidises landlords...
And houses people to stop them living on the streets, so that the rest of us don't have to be inconvenienced by keep tripping over the homeless when in the UK..........
 
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And houses people to stop them living on the streets, so that the rest of us don't have to be inconvenienced by keep tripping over the homeless when in the UK..........
Yet plenty of homeless still in London. Something isn't working out right? (although it does seem that a good proportion of them I meet have medical issues)
 
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Yet plenty of homeless still in London. Something isn't working out right? (although it does seem that a good proportion of them I meet have medical issues)
I've always said that welfare tends to benefit those with resources more than those without.
 
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Yet plenty of homeless still in London. Something isn't working out right? (although it does seem that a good proportion of them I meet have medical issues)
So how many do you actually meet and talk to on a daily basis then Steve?

What pearls of wisdom have they shared with you today that has lead you to this conclusion? Which particular road in London today did you meet them on Whitechapel High Street maybe or somewhere in South London ? Do share your personal experiences of this in the last few days rather than vague generalisations ?
 
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Originally Posted by jennieJ
So how many do you actually meet and talk to on a daily basis then Steve?

What pearls of wisdom have they shared with you today that has lead you to this conclusion? Which particular road in London today did you meet them on Whitechapel High Street maybe or somewhere in South London ? Do share your personal experiences of this in the last few days rather than vague generalisations ?
Marylebone. More specifcally between Bell Street and Harewood Avenue. But there are plenty of other places around London where you see homeless people sleeping rough or in and out of hostels. No doubt you think it's all made up? Or in some places way out east or south.
 
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Marylebone. More specifcally between Bell Street and Harewood Avenue. But there are plenty of other places around London where you see homeless people sleeping rough or in and out of hostels. No doubt you think it's all made up? Or in some places way out east or south.
No I don't think it is all made up, if you say you were wandering up Marylebone High Street today then i believe you (why would you lie?) I just wondered what medical qualification you had that meant you could establish all these homeless people you had come across were mentally or physically ill in some way?
 
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No I don't think it is all made up, if you say you were wandering up Marylebone High Street today then i believe you (why would you lie?) I just wondered what medical qualification you had that meant you could establish all these homeless people you had come across were mentally or physically ill in some way?
I didn't say that did I (and btw the High Street is not adjacent to the area I'm talking about) ???
All I said is that a good proportion of those I've met, have got "issues". Now it may be that they predate the time they slept rough, or it may be that sleeping rough has resluted in mental damage. Incidentally I've also heard from a few people who've worked in the sector, that many who are sleeping rough end up dependent on drugs or alcohol. Again, I'm not saying it's causation, nor am I saying it's correlation. I'm sure there are others better qualified in the subject to comment further.
 
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Bleeding hell....turned into another what about the UK thread...no surprise there

The homeless in London have always been there as long as I can remember, probably always will be. Those with medical problems such as Schizophrenia, drug and alcohol addiction etc. make up the largest number, like a magnet for them.

If we are playing the tennis game...lots in Spain too
 


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