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This has to be one of the most depressing threads I´ve read.
I feel deeply fo the couple who have lost their Spanish home. People will surely mock how foolish they may have been but they simply trusted in a system.
Everyone living or have lived in Spain will be aware of the "strange" dealings. Who you know reaping far more rewards than what you know. But in cases like this, two innocent people have been gravely let down by the country!
I say this because the Police have failed to prevent the completion. The Solicitors have failed to prevent the sale. The Mayor has failed to prevent the water and electric supplies. The suppliers have clearly failed to follow what one might call the "code of honour" and the judge has failed to recognise and deal efficiently with anyone of them theiving lying cheating robbing b#5tards!
It utterly disgusts me what people do, and are allowed to get away with doing,when there´s money involved!
Furthermore, do any of these idiots in power have any realisation what this type of press does to the country? Do they even care? "I´m alright Jack ... f##k you!"
Rant over ... I needed to get it off my chest!

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and didnt the region or municipality collect 8years of property taxes btw on that house ?...

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Best Rant I've heard in a long time, Well Said and Very True.

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Not just Spain. Does this sound familiar. The club med countries must see the Brits as a soft touch.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...iday-home.html

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what's the % of illegal villas though ? how to determine this ?...
Meaning, is it a big sizeable problem or still "exceptions", with say 99% of villas built have all the legal papers, are in conformity with local laws etc.

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These links give some idea of the scale of the problem in some badly affected areas, although what percentage of the total housing stock they represent, I don't know:-

http://www.almanzora-au.org


http://www.surinenglish.com/20130108...301081210.html


http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.co...illegal-homes/

I'm sure it is possible to find fully legal homes built in rural areas, but as I said in another thread quite recently, having read about problems happening more than 10 years ago when I was first looking for a house, I resolved then only to look at older houses in an established area and I've always advised others to do the same, if asked.

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thks Lynn. good advice.

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British expats are immigrants in Spain and to get the whole picture it's necessary to examine immigrants the world over, but maybe we should concentrate on Europe, including the UK.

Germany has more immigrants than the UK, mostly from Turkey, and they are mostly excluded from general society. Even if born in the country they can be deported back to the land of their fathers.

France has a large Muslim population because of its adventures in Algeria, and they don't appear to be welcomed by the general population. They can't even wear their burkas.

Italy has Romas flooding in from Eastern Europe and they don't encourage them to stay.

And the UK and its immigrants? I don't need to comment on that one, do I?

So compared to the rest of Europe, us immigrants from the UK do rather well in Spain. And well behaved, well off pensioners are well treated, unless they build illegal houses on Spanish land. Or steal Spanish jobs and businesses.

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Hardly a like for like comparison.
Apart from Brits in Spain how many of the others are injecting funds from their home country into their host nations economy ?
In most cases exactly the opposite applies.

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DD is absolutely right
most these communities outflow moneys to their countries. and those examples are not EU communities btw but out of EU ones.
it's damn a privilege for the Spanish economy to have the Brit cty !

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Right of course, the amount of money sent out of the UK is huge.

That is the reason for all the Western Union shops in the high streets.

They are not there for people to send money into the UK, well not often anyway. It does seem one way traffic.

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I've employed many Spanish tradesmen over the years, instead of the many British tradesmen readily available here in Spain, thousands of them. I've sometimes employed the Spanish ones even if the British ones were better and cheaper, to put something back into the country I have spent so many happy years in.

I know many British businesses trading in Spain, who do send their profits back to the UK, I was in one only earlier today. They've hit a niche in the market and friends and family are coming over in droves to take money back to the UK. They've even bought a large Yacht which is moored locally, but will be heading back to the UK in the future.

Some of the biggest entertainment venues in Benidorm are British owned, though not often advertised as such, and they don't keep their profits in Spain.

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I bet you could count on one hand Brits who make enough to send profits back to the UK. Most of them are living hand to mouth and always have done....laugh of the day:rofl:

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Most Brits in Spain do not work. They generally bring money in every month and spend it here. Yes, there are some that do work (usually finding their customers from the fellow Brits) and there are some who live on their wits (conning off - generally speaking - their fellow Brits as well). The Spanish don't, generally, drink in British bars or eat in British fry-ups (why should they?) so I don't think much money is 'going the other way'.
In short - if the average Brit brings in 1000 euros a month from outside, and there are 750,000 Brits living here with property, there must be a lot of money coming in to the local economies. I make it 750,000,000€ per month...
Too much? The house, the car, the furniture, the taxes...

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Funny you should say that. I used to know two British newspaper proprietors on the CDS who were extremely successful. I think one of them now lives in Almeria.

I know four British newspaper proprietors here on the Costa Blanca who are very successful. I know a car dealer, he owns several extremely large premises, who is a multi millionaire.

Thinking more about it, I know a British butcher with several shops in my locality who is rolling in money.

With the exception of the guy in Almeria, I don't think any of them are members of this forum.

And I haven't even started on the estate agents. Or the insurance brokers. Or the financial advisors. Or the British lawyers.

I'm going to stop because I'm running out of space.