Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
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Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Hello all
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Hello allI have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK. Please help?
Or connect any digibox / satellite receiver and receive the free (non sky card) channels.
But reception of some channels will depend where exactly you are in Spain and what size dish you have - as in some areas even a 2.4m dish may not pick up all the uk tv channels.
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Hello all
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Technically it is illegal to receive subscription channels from Sky in Spain - many ways to do this and get around it though
Your UK subscription is not transferrable and if you read the small print of your UK Sky contract you are not to use it outside of the UK (or even any other house in the UK that the subscription is not registered to)
Good luck
Your UK subscription is not transferrable and if you read the small print of your UK Sky contract you are not to use it outside of the UK (or even any other house in the UK that the subscription is not registered to)
Good luck
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Technically it is illegal to receive subscription channels from Sky in Spain - many ways to do this and get around it though
Your UK subscription is not transferrable and if you read the small print of your UK Sky contract you are not to use it outside of the UK (or even any other house in the UK that the subscription is not registered to)
Good luck
Your UK subscription is not transferrable and if you read the small print of your UK Sky contract you are not to use it outside of the UK (or even any other house in the UK that the subscription is not registered to)
Good luck
I know we're not supposed to condone illegal activity on the forum and maybe that's why you're making this public service announcement tadd? I can't work out why, actually. Is that intended to help the Op or warn them?
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Technically it is illegal to receive or watch subscription channels from Sky in Spain - many ways to do this and get around it thoughYour UK subscription is not transferrable and if you read the small print of your UK Sky contract you are not to use it outside of the UK (or even any other house in the UK that the subscription is not registered to)Good luck
Last edited by The Guy; Feb 14th 2016 at 9:34 am.
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Scottie; some will tell you it's illegal, some will tell you it isn't (the EU ruling only covered free to view channels broadcast via satellite btw).
The truth of the matter is nearly every expat does it, the Spanish don't seem to care and there are several ways;
Take your Sky Box and card (with a subscription) and plug it into a satellite dish, depending on your area you may need a large dish. If you don't have a Sky Subscription then maybe a friend could get multi room and you take it to Spain. Get it activated before you go.
You can also stream via the Internet. There are various providers who will facilitate this. I suggest you speak to others in your area as they will all have something set up.
The truth of the matter is nearly every expat does it, the Spanish don't seem to care and there are several ways;
Take your Sky Box and card (with a subscription) and plug it into a satellite dish, depending on your area you may need a large dish. If you don't have a Sky Subscription then maybe a friend could get multi room and you take it to Spain. Get it activated before you go.
You can also stream via the Internet. There are various providers who will facilitate this. I suggest you speak to others in your area as they will all have something set up.
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No it did not "only cover free to view channels broadcast via satellite", since it was a ruling for a case of using a Greek Pay TV card in a UK pub for EPL matches, where the ECJ ruled you could use legally use a Pay TV card from one EU country in another EU country, but only in a domestic residence, and not in a public place, whilst acknowledging that that use may be against the cards T&Cs.There are no legal restrictions at all for watching free to air (ie non encrypted, non viewing card) channels from one EU country in another EU country. In fact the EU encourage this!
Last edited by The Guy; Feb 14th 2016 at 10:16 am.
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
The Guy,
Unfortunately the ECJ ruling did not;
‘rule you could use legally use a Pay TV card from one EU country in another EU country, but only in a domestic residence’
The full ruling is here if anyone is interested:
[url=http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf;jsessi - Documents[/url]
The first point to note is section II para 57 which states;
‘First of all, it should be made clear that the present cases concern only the satellite broadcasting of Premier League matches to the public by broadcasting organisations, such as Multichoice Hellas’
However that said much can be read into the ruling, firstly section I which deals with existing legislation, conventions and directives makes it clear that these should be adhered to. Paras 3-9, 20 (sub paras 20 and 23) and para 21 make it clear that “authors’ retain rights over their ‘works’.
Section III para 89 makes it clear that broadcasters will not be in breach of freedom of movement directives if they can objectively justify it.
Murphy won her case because the court ruled that sporting events could not be classed as ‘works’ and consequently no ‘author’ could exercise control over them so the Premier League were unable to objectively justify restricting access.
Other things to come out of the ruling however were;
Using a decoder outside of the member state it was intended for does not make it an ‘illicit item’ and that if a broadcaster does not restrict access to its broadcasts in the member state it is designed for (freeview) then it can be viewed legitimately anywhere within the EU and The Guy is right this is encouraged by the EU in their 1993 Satellite and Cable directive. A new directive is being looked at and is currently being consulted on.
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...e/index_en.htm
In essence the judgement said you can use a decoder to watch free to air television and live sports anywhere in the EU but you can not watch programmes protected by subscription and incidentally if watching sport you can only watch the live broadcast of the event not the build up, half time and full time analysis. None of this really matters anyway as everyone does it!
Unfortunately the ECJ ruling did not;
‘rule you could use legally use a Pay TV card from one EU country in another EU country, but only in a domestic residence’
The full ruling is here if anyone is interested:
[url=http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf;jsessi - Documents[/url]
The first point to note is section II para 57 which states;
‘First of all, it should be made clear that the present cases concern only the satellite broadcasting of Premier League matches to the public by broadcasting organisations, such as Multichoice Hellas’
However that said much can be read into the ruling, firstly section I which deals with existing legislation, conventions and directives makes it clear that these should be adhered to. Paras 3-9, 20 (sub paras 20 and 23) and para 21 make it clear that “authors’ retain rights over their ‘works’.
Section III para 89 makes it clear that broadcasters will not be in breach of freedom of movement directives if they can objectively justify it.
Murphy won her case because the court ruled that sporting events could not be classed as ‘works’ and consequently no ‘author’ could exercise control over them so the Premier League were unable to objectively justify restricting access.
Other things to come out of the ruling however were;
Using a decoder outside of the member state it was intended for does not make it an ‘illicit item’ and that if a broadcaster does not restrict access to its broadcasts in the member state it is designed for (freeview) then it can be viewed legitimately anywhere within the EU and The Guy is right this is encouraged by the EU in their 1993 Satellite and Cable directive. A new directive is being looked at and is currently being consulted on.
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...e/index_en.htm
In essence the judgement said you can use a decoder to watch free to air television and live sports anywhere in the EU but you can not watch programmes protected by subscription and incidentally if watching sport you can only watch the live broadcast of the event not the build up, half time and full time analysis. None of this really matters anyway as everyone does it!
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
In essence the judgement said you can use a decoder to watch free to air television and live sports anywhere in the EU but you can not watch programmes protected by subscription and incidentally if watching sport you can only watch the live broadcast of the event not the build up, half time and full time analysis
Last edited by The Guy; Feb 14th 2016 at 2:18 pm.
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
To the OP I suggest you PM The Guy, as we have all said everyone does it and he may well be able to suggest a better way of accessing TV channels than just a Sky dish. I believe in some parts of Spain even with a Sky box/card you can't pick up BBC, ITV? Something to do with the satellite? I get all of mine over the internet and get it with a decent Internet package although this is provided by a community authorised provider to lots of us, and before anyone says it this is definitely illegal!
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Hello all
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
I have internet set up and Spanish landline connected and also have a HUGE satellite dish outside my house.... I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this. I have a Sky subscription active in the UK.
Please help?
If you actually told SKY that you were living abroad they would probably cut you off, but unless you do that no one bothers you.
Yes, I know it was breach of contract, but if SKY lost all of their Expat accounts they would be losing a fair bit of dosh I would think, so they are not proactive at finding people not in the UK. They are more worried most of the time with people who have multi room and insist on a telephone number as you could be getting multi room and using it in two houses I guess
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
Many people down here use the alternative Intelsat 907 satellite which receives them on a 80cm dish. For the other channels, including Sky, an Internet solution is the most common.
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Re: Accessing UK and Sky TV in Spain
In the week that scientists discovered fluctuations in space-time that proved Einstein was right all those years ago, I am wondering what it is that causes people to disappear up their own arseholes pondering every possible scenario.
The Op said... "I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this."
Op, yeah you can. Grab a copy of the local paper en Ingles and you'll see plenty of ads put there by people who can help you.
The Op said... "I'm told it's possible to "pick up" UK tv/Sky with this set up but I have no clue how to do this."
Op, yeah you can. Grab a copy of the local paper en Ingles and you'll see plenty of ads put there by people who can help you.