24 and moving to Spain
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Plenty of young people across the country, especially from other EU countries working for the larger multinational companies, hospitality etc.. I suppose it depends on your skill set and salary expectations. Apart from English, a 2nd language is usually standard requirement these days.
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The problem with the younger generation is that they don't really have a skill ......
They are clever on their computers as are thousands of other young people, but none want to dirty their hands and be proficient in plumbing or electrical work etc, etc. Office work or "Remote Working" is the ultimate solution to them and wonder why there is so much competition 🤔. No wonder that there are so many of this generation out of work!!!
Steve
They are clever on their computers as are thousands of other young people, but none want to dirty their hands and be proficient in plumbing or electrical work etc, etc. Office work or "Remote Working" is the ultimate solution to them and wonder why there is so much competition 🤔. No wonder that there are so many of this generation out of work!!!
Steve
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Hi guys,
I just wondered if there were many people in their 20s who had made the move to Spain?
I have a great opportunity to move out here and I’m just curious to see if many other foreign younger people are also living in the south of Spain?
I suppose there will be people temporarily living here to study, but beyond that, are there many Brits or other nationalities for that matter, who are living here in their younger years?
And if so, how do I find them? 😂
I just wondered if there were many people in their 20s who had made the move to Spain?
I have a great opportunity to move out here and I’m just curious to see if many other foreign younger people are also living in the south of Spain?
I suppose there will be people temporarily living here to study, but beyond that, are there many Brits or other nationalities for that matter, who are living here in their younger years?
And if so, how do I find them? 😂
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Since Valencia has already been mentioned I'll throw in my tuppence. The city is heaving with foreigners in their 20's under the various schemes, of course mostly EU. Speaking only English will be a hindrance but not impossible but you should definitely learn it as soon as possible. English is very widely spoken here. I went to see Oppenheimer in English last night. All showing (6 per day in English) were packed.
I moved here in my 40's so I can't quite relate but I left the UK at 30. Obviously this was pre-Brexit but the requirements for people of working age haven't changed that much. I still had to find a job, prove my income, change my license and be at the bottom of the queue for jobs as local jobs were meant for local people. The bottom line is if you want to make it work it will work. Just use the legal routes for everything. Treat your legal work as you would treat any other project in your life, hire professionals. Arrange your visa the correct way from the UK and when you get here use local professionals and hire translators when required. Don't go straight to the English speaking lawyer, they may not be the best at their job just because they speak your language.
Professionals don't advertise through Facebook, Instagram or expat sites. These sites are good for advice and recommendations only. Take that as a positive. If you have an idea, there are many members who can give you the list of reasons why this won't work. As with every situation, there's always a way to get through it.
Good luck.
I moved here in my 40's so I can't quite relate but I left the UK at 30. Obviously this was pre-Brexit but the requirements for people of working age haven't changed that much. I still had to find a job, prove my income, change my license and be at the bottom of the queue for jobs as local jobs were meant for local people. The bottom line is if you want to make it work it will work. Just use the legal routes for everything. Treat your legal work as you would treat any other project in your life, hire professionals. Arrange your visa the correct way from the UK and when you get here use local professionals and hire translators when required. Don't go straight to the English speaking lawyer, they may not be the best at their job just because they speak your language.
Professionals don't advertise through Facebook, Instagram or expat sites. These sites are good for advice and recommendations only. Take that as a positive. If you have an idea, there are many members who can give you the list of reasons why this won't work. As with every situation, there's always a way to get through it.
Good luck.
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Oooops I forgot, they can't do that now, thanks to that Brexit benefit.
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From last year, but the same every year:
https://www.thelocal.es/20220606/explained-why-no-one-in-spain-wants-to-be-a-waiter-anymore there's a shortage of 20,000 camareros (waiters), whereas in the Canary Islands 30,000 hospitality workers are unemployed but thousands of positions are not being filled ahead of the summer. Benidorm alone is 3,500 workers short for the high season.
The same situation has been reported in the southern region of Murcia and in towns across Galicia. In fact, all over the country, businesses are facing shortages of wait and kitchen staff.
So why does no one in Spain want to be a waiter anymore?
Están hartos as they say in Spanish, they're fed up. Spain's hospitality workers have for years been complaining about long hours, night shifts that go unpaid, wage cuts, job instability, unpaid holidays and employers paying them under the table to avoid having to pay tax and social security.
“There isn't a lack of workers, there is a lack of slaves. People want to work, but with decent conditionsâ€, tweeted Gonzalo Fuentes, from the Hospitality Federation of Workers' Commissions.
The unionist spoke specifically of the poor work conditions that exist for waiters across Spain, explaining how employers don’t always comply with collective agreements, they register employees for fewer hours than they actually work, they do not pay overtime or they pay part of the salary 'in black'.
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Less paperwork with freedom of movement though, I'm not sure if the Spanish government would be willing to accept a hostel addresses for a DNV application.
The Digital Nomad Visa however might give you access to Spain but remember it is not residency visa. It is possible to get residency but you will need 5 years of being remote- this means you can not change your job nor will you have access to Spanish health service nor any form of SS benefit.
The "must have been working for at least three years with your current company" requirement may only be for the initial application, not the renewal.
I read in that link that if you apply as a tourist from within Spain then you get three years' temporary residency, not just one, meaning after that you just need two renewals for the DNV, then one application for permanent residency.
Last edited by DLC; Jul 24th 2023 at 12:02 am.
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True and not only that, when you get paid a pittance it's no surprise that these positions remain unfilled.
From last year, but the same every year:
https://www.thelocal.es/20220606/explained-why-no-one-in-spain-wants-to-be-a-waiter-anymore there's a shortage of 20,000 camareros (waiters), whereas in the Canary Islands 30,000 hospitality workers are unemployed but thousands of positions are not being filled ahead of the summer. Benidorm alone is 3,500 workers short for the high season.
The same situation has been reported in the southern region of Murcia and in towns across Galicia. In fact, all over the country, businesses are facing shortages of wait and kitchen staff.
So why does no one in Spain want to be a waiter anymore?
Están hartos as they say in Spanish, they're fed up. Spain's hospitality workers have for years been complaining about long hours, night shifts that go unpaid, wage cuts, job instability, unpaid holidays and employers paying them under the table to avoid having to pay tax and social security.
“There isn't a lack of workers, there is a lack of slaves. People want to work, but with decent conditionsâ€, tweeted Gonzalo Fuentes, from the Hospitality Federation of Workers' Commissions.
The unionist spoke specifically of the poor work conditions that exist for waiters across Spain, explaining how employers don’t always comply with collective agreements, they register employees for fewer hours than they actually work, they do not pay overtime or they pay part of the salary 'in black'.
From last year, but the same every year:
https://www.thelocal.es/20220606/explained-why-no-one-in-spain-wants-to-be-a-waiter-anymore there's a shortage of 20,000 camareros (waiters), whereas in the Canary Islands 30,000 hospitality workers are unemployed but thousands of positions are not being filled ahead of the summer. Benidorm alone is 3,500 workers short for the high season.
The same situation has been reported in the southern region of Murcia and in towns across Galicia. In fact, all over the country, businesses are facing shortages of wait and kitchen staff.
So why does no one in Spain want to be a waiter anymore?
Están hartos as they say in Spanish, they're fed up. Spain's hospitality workers have for years been complaining about long hours, night shifts that go unpaid, wage cuts, job instability, unpaid holidays and employers paying them under the table to avoid having to pay tax and social security.
“There isn't a lack of workers, there is a lack of slaves. People want to work, but with decent conditionsâ€, tweeted Gonzalo Fuentes, from the Hospitality Federation of Workers' Commissions.
The unionist spoke specifically of the poor work conditions that exist for waiters across Spain, explaining how employers don’t always comply with collective agreements, they register employees for fewer hours than they actually work, they do not pay overtime or they pay part of the salary 'in black'.
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The problem with the younger generation is that they don't really have a skill ......
They are clever on their computers as are thousands of other young people, but none want to dirty their hands and be proficient in plumbing or electrical work etc, etc. Office work or "Remote Working" is the ultimate solution to them and wonder why there is so much competition 🤔. No wonder that there are so many of this generation out of work!!!
Steve
They are clever on their computers as are thousands of other young people, but none want to dirty their hands and be proficient in plumbing or electrical work etc, etc. Office work or "Remote Working" is the ultimate solution to them and wonder why there is so much competition 🤔. No wonder that there are so many of this generation out of work!!!
Steve
Last edited by DLC; Jul 24th 2023 at 4:22 am.
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Just a reply why these positions remain unfilled. As far as I can see, there are no open questions from OP that haven't been answered.




