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Jur Feb 7th 2010 11:49 pm

20.000!
 
Ayamonte´s population grew to 20.000 inhabitants:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/arti...abitantes.html

EsuriJohn Feb 8th 2010 2:34 am

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by Jur (Post 8322739)
Ayamonte´s population grew to 20.000 inhabitants:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/arti...abitantes.html

I believe that this is an important milestone is Spanish towns they get extra grants and councillors above that level. Thats why it is so important for us all to sign on the Padron easy to do and gives us the right to vote in the upcoming Mayoral Elections. You have to sign the voters registor after you have become Empadronmiento but its just upstairs and you can do it at the same time!

spanish_lawyer Feb 11th 2010 4:08 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8323227)
I believe that this is an important milestone is Spanish towns they get extra grants and councillors above that level. Thats why it is so important for us all to sign on the Padron easy to do and gives us the right to vote in the upcoming Mayoral Elections. You have to sign the voters registor after you have become Empadronmiento but its just upstairs and you can do it at the same time!

Once again, you surprise me.

You're right. Whether a Town Hall exceeds 20,000 habitants is truly important. Increase the budget and it is necessary that is 21 councilors members.

Enrolling in a municipal census gives the citizen a series of rights and duties. The main one is that makes you vote and stand in all calls for elections at all levels (municipal, regional, general ...) undertaken. Also, be registered in the register enables all residents to participate in the management of the municipality and all municipal services use. For example, you can register in secondary schools in the municipality, use the services of the Municipal Library and workshops of the Casa de Cultura, access to municipal services and social assistance, apply for grants to local associations, etc. ..

Register to vote is a relatively simple practice and also free. Simply go to the Town Hall and fill Padron or sheet form, which includes a series of personal data (name, address, family book for children ...) and academic degree or certificate held.

Are you register in Ayamonte?.

Regards.

EsuriJohn Feb 11th 2010 4:36 am

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Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8333418)
Once again, you surprise me.

You're right. Whether a Town Hall exceeds 20,000 habitants is truly important. Increase the budget and it is necessary that is 21 councilors members.

Enrolling in a municipal census gives the citizen a series of rights and duties. The main one is that makes you vote and stand in all calls for elections at all levels (municipal, regional, general ...) undertaken. Also, be registered in the register enables all residents to participate in the management of the municipality and all municipal services use. For example, you can register in secondary schools in the municipality, use the services of the Municipal Library and workshops of the Casa de Cultura, access to municipal services and social assistance, apply for grants to local associations, etc. ..

Register to vote is a relatively simple practice and also free. Simply go to the Town Hall and fill Padron or sheet form, which includes a series of personal data (name, address, family book for children ...) and academic degree or certificate held.

Are you register in Ayamonte?.

Regards.

Kath and I have signed on the Padron with our Escritura but at the time we were not here long term so we did not take the next step and go upstairs to join the register of electors but I must do that now and urge all other CE dwellers to do the same then we have "clout"

spanish_lawyer Feb 11th 2010 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8333505)
Kath and I have signed on the Padron with our Escritura but at the time we were not here long term so we did not take the next step and go upstairs to join the register of electors but I must do that now and urge all other CE dwellers to do the same then we have "clout"

It's true. I'm thinking of register in Ayamonte. The only "weapon" we have is registered. The next elections are in May next year. They choose the new government team of Town Hall.

I do not know how many people, of registered voters in Ayamonte, belongs to CE, but I guess very, very few. The more people have registered to vote in the EC area, the more likely it is that value our interests.

EsuriJohn Feb 11th 2010 9:49 pm

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Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8335010)
It's true. I'm thinking of register in Ayamonte. The only "weapon" we have is registered. The next elections are in May next year. They choose the new government team of Town Hall.

I do not know how many people, of registered voters in Ayamonte, belongs to CE, but I guess very, very few. The more people have registered to vote in the EC area, the more likely it is that value our interests.

Went to the Town Hall this morning to correct a mistake on my Empadronmiento registration and they were very good and corrected it immediately. I then asked if I could be put on the electorial roll and they said it was not required. This surprised me since at the last elections a friend who was already on the Padron was made to join a separate register upsairs in order to vote. SL I thought Spanish nationals were only allowed to be on one Padron?

spanish_lawyer Feb 11th 2010 10:41 pm

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8335259)
Went to the Town Hall this morning to correct a mistake on my Empadronmiento registration and they were very good and corrected it immediately. I then asked if I could be put on the electorial roll and they said it was not required. This surprised me since at the last elections a friend who was already on the Padron was made to join a separate register upsairs in order to vote. SL I thought Spanish nationals were only allowed to be on one Padron?

That's right. In fact, it's a crime to be registered in two places at once. I will find out what the procedure and will write it here. It is possible that the procedure has changed because there is a new Law on Foreigners.

John and Lynn Feb 12th 2010 1:08 am

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Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8335373)
That's right. In fact, it's a crime to be registered in two places at once. I will find out what the procedure and will write it here. It is possible that the procedure has changed because there is a new Law on Foreigners.

Hey, we're not "Foreigners" we are BRITS..:thumbsup:

Jur Feb 12th 2010 2:57 am

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We´re all immigrants!:)

chrisfromusa Feb 12th 2010 11:24 am

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by John and Lynn (Post 8335762)
Hey, we're not "Foreigners" we are BRITS..:thumbsup:

Hes right :p only Brits and Americans are expats, everyone else are foreigners ;)

iant Feb 12th 2010 9:42 pm

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8333418)
Once again, you surprise me.

You're right. Whether a Town Hall exceeds 20,000 habitants is truly important. Increase the budget and it is necessary that is 21 councilors members.

Enrolling in a municipal census gives the citizen a series of rights and duties. The main one is that makes you vote and stand in all calls for elections at all levels (municipal, regional, general ...) undertaken. Also, be registered in the register enables all residents to participate in the management of the municipality and all municipal services use. For example, you can register in secondary schools in the municipality, use the services of the Municipal Library and workshops of the Casa de Cultura, access to municipal services and social assistance, apply for grants to local associations, etc. ..

Register to vote is a relatively simple practice and also free. Simply go to the Town Hall and fill Padron or sheet form, which includes a series of personal data (name, address, family book for children ...) and academic degree or certificate held.

Are you register in Ayamonte?.

Regards.

HI SL, congratulations on your valuable contributions to the Ayamonte section. Without wishing to be pedantic, as far as I am aware non-Spanish citizens are not eligble to vote in general elections, whether they are "empadronados" or not, or has this recently been changed?
iant

spanish_lawyer Feb 13th 2010 12:54 am

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Originally Posted by iant (Post 8338285)
HI SL, congratulations on your valuable contributions to the Ayamonte section. Without wishing to be pedantic, as far as I am aware non-Spanish citizens are not eligble to vote in general elections, whether they are "empadronados" or not, or has this recently been changed?
iant

Hi Iant,

I don´t believe you´re a pedantic. Your question is very good.

The municipal register is the administrative record showing all the neighbours who live or ordinarily resident in that municipality. Their data are proof of residence in this municipality.

The registration is an administrative process necessary to access their rights under the "Foreign´s Law".

John and Lynn, the Foreign´s Law applies to all those without Spanish nationality. Of course, it includes British!.

I advise you the registration becuase it will access healthcare and other social and municipal services.

Being registered it allow you, to vote and be voted, in Municipal Elections (Ayamonte, for example) and Autonomic (Andalucía). However, in the General Election (Congreso de los Diputados and Senado) is necessary to have the Spanish nationality.

spanish_lawyer Feb 25th 2010 12:05 am

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8335259)
Went to the Town Hall this morning to correct a mistake on my Empadronmiento registration and they were very good and corrected it immediately. I then asked if I could be put on the electorial roll and they said it was not required. This surprised me since at the last elections a friend who was already on the Padron was made to join a separate register upsairs in order to vote. SL I thought Spanish nationals were only allowed to be on one Padron?

To register (empadronarse) you need to go to Town Hall and submit the following documents: a bill can indicate the address (water, electric, etc) or the deed of sale (or lease). If you want a census (empadronar) of children under 18 need to submit a document attesting that the family relationship (in Spain used the Libro de Familia -Family Book-).

Once that has been done the previous step, the people non Spanish must apply for SOLICITUD DE VOTO (voter applications) document that indicates the intention to vote in Spain (at this Town Hall) in the next election. You can also choose where you want to vote in European Elections (in Spain or in your home country).

EsuriJohn Feb 25th 2010 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8374070)
To register (empadronarse) you need to go to Town Hall and submit the following documents: a bill can indicate the address (water, electric, etc) or the deed of sale (or lease). If you want a census (empadronar) of children under 18 need to submit a document attesting that the family relationship (in Spain used the Libro de Familia -Family Book-).

Once that has been done the previous step, the people non Spanish must apply for SOLICITUD DE VOTO (voter applications) document that indicates the intention to vote in Spain (at this Town Hall) in the next election. You can also choose where you want to vote in European Elections (in Spain or in your home country).

Hi SL
It is very easy to do this in Ayamonte, the Lady/Gentleman who does this is just to the right as you enter the main doors of the Ayuntamiento Offices. All we needed 3 years ago was our deed of sale for the Parcela (Escritura), NIE and passports. We chose to have the certificate signed by the then Mayor so had to wait 3 days to collect at a cost of euro 1.30 but I think if we had just wanted to register it would not have cost anything. I went in last week to apply for Solicitud De Voto but was told it was not necessary!

There have been reports from other areas that now you have to produce your Residencia to be allowed to sign the Padron. Can you confirm this?

MikeJ Feb 26th 2010 5:49 pm

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8374613)
Hi SL
It is very easy to do this in Ayamonte, the Lady/Gentleman who does this is just to the right as you enter the main doors of the Ayuntamiento Offices. All we needed 3 years ago was our deed of sale for the Parcela (Escritura), NIE and passports. We chose to have the certificate signed by the then Mayor so had to wait 3 days to collect at a cost of euro 1.30 but I think if we had just wanted to register it would not have cost anything. I went in last week to apply for Solicitud De Voto but was told it was not necessary!

There have been reports from other areas that now you have to produce your Residencia to be allowed to sign the Padron. Can you confirm this?

Just to cross the t's and dot the i's :). The place to register in Ayamonte is the town hall office whose entrance is on the corner opposite the Laguna cafe. (the one round the corner is for paying your taxes) We just took along a proof of address (utility bill) passports and NIEs - and that was sufficient for registering with the empadromemiente. The lady who does the registration has no English but it is very patient and has a copy of a newspaper article in English which explains the process which she uses as a prompt. Took about 10 minutes and we had to return 3 days later to pay a small sum to get the signed and stamped certificates from the cashier on the ground floor.

Steve and Pat Feb 27th 2010 12:16 am

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 8378954)
Just to cross the t's and dot the i's :). The place to register in Ayamonte is the town hall office whose entrance is on the corner opposite the Laguna cafe. (the one round the corner is for paying your taxes) We just took along a proof of address (utility bill) passports and NIEs - and that was sufficient for registering with the empadromemiente. The lady who does the registration has no English but it is very patient and has a copy of a newspaper article in English which explains the process which she uses as a prompt. Took about 10 minutes and we had to return 3 days later to pay a small sum to get the signed and stamped certificates from the cashier on the ground floor.

We will be doing this next time we visit. (Left it to the end last time, and then forgot to take a utility bill.:frown:) Better luck next time.

Steve :fingerscrossed:

jdr Feb 27th 2010 6:54 am

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Originally Posted by Steve and Pat (Post 8379429)
We will be doing this next time we visit. (Left it to the end last time, and then forgot to take a utility bill.:frown:) Better luck next time.

Steve :fingerscrossed:

Ask her what the charge is for as it is usually a free service.

MikeJ Feb 27th 2010 11:01 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8380066)
Ask her what the charge is for as it is usually a free service.

The charge was very small 1,80 Euros or so each - it was a fee for the signed and stamped certficates - not the registration. Something like stamp duty.

jdr Feb 27th 2010 11:33 pm

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 8381391)
The charge was very small 1,80 Euros or so each - it was a fee for the signed and stamped certficates - not the registration. Something like stamp duty.

Oh right, it`s free here cos they encourage registering to get the adequate services for the area. :thumbup:

EsuriJohn Feb 28th 2010 2:56 am

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8381466)
Oh right, it`s free here cos they encourage registering to get the adequate services for the area. :thumbup:

its free to register in Ayamonte the €1.30 fee was for a signed certificate from the Mayor!

Jon-Bxl Feb 28th 2010 5:00 am

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by Jur (Post 8322739)
Ayamonte´s population grew to 20.000 inhabitants:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/arti...abitantes.html

Here it is in English (Google)

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

spanish_lawyer Feb 28th 2010 7:25 pm

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8374613)
Hi SL
It is very easy to do this in Ayamonte, the Lady/Gentleman who does this is just to the right as you enter the main doors of the Ayuntamiento Offices. All we needed 3 years ago was our deed of sale for the Parcela (Escritura), NIE and passports. We chose to have the certificate signed by the then Mayor so had to wait 3 days to collect at a cost of euro 1.30 but I think if we had just wanted to register it would not have cost anything. I went in last week to apply for Solicitud De Voto but was told it was not necessary!

There have been reports from other areas that now you have to produce your Residencia to be allowed to sign the Padron. Can you confirm this?

I just call the Town Hall. I just confirmed again that all registered voters no Spanish must present SOLICITUD DE VOTO. If you do not submit before the next election, the INE (Instituto Nacional de Estadística) will send to your address of Ayamonte a document which ask where you want to vote.

EsuriJohn Jul 13th 2010 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by spanish_lawyer (Post 8383532)
I just call the Town Hall. I just confirmed again that all registered voters no Spanish must present SOLICITUD DE VOTO. If you do not submit before the next election, the INE (Instituto Nacional de Estadística) will send to your address of Ayamonte a document which ask where you want to vote.

It is now not much more than 6 months to the next Municipal elections.

Why is this IMPORTANT the current Mayor who has failed to call in the first BANK GUARANTEE WORTH MORE THAN ONE MILLION EURO TO BE SPENT ON THE INCOMPLETE INFRASTRUCTURE AT COSTA ESURI will be up for re-election.

It is our chance as owners and long term resident at CE to show him how we feel about his actions. He currently runs a minority coalition administration at the Town Hall and won his Mayorolity by only 50 votes. Things can change must change if CE is to become what we all hoped for. The way to do this is 51 of us to sign on the Padron and gain our SOLICITTUD DE VOTO. The first part is easy as explained in the first part of this thread.

SL how do we get the Solicitud De Voto I think I have tried but been turned away?

Reptonian Jul 13th 2010 9:09 pm

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John and SL,

Why is 51 an important number? Does Esuri not count as part of the town of Ayamonte until then?

If we sign on the Padron, does that not give us the right to vote, or is there some additional admin to be done?

Jonathan

EsuriJohn Jul 13th 2010 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Reptonian (Post 8700629)
John and SL,

Why is 51 an important number? Does Esuri not count as part of the town of Ayamonte until then?

If we sign on the Padron, does that not give us the right to vote, or is there some additional admin to be done?

Jonathan

51 votes not for the mayor unseats him! Read the whole thread its not long and gives good insight into the whole process. SL has some good posts.

Reptonian Jul 13th 2010 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8700787)
51 votes not for the mayor unseats him! Read the whole thread its not long and gives good insight into the whole process. SL has some good posts.

John,

I must be brain-dead ofc 51 is the difference in the last vote! Must be the heat here in M-G! :o

spanish_lawyer Jul 13th 2010 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8700526)
It is now not much more than 6 months to the next Municipal elections.

Why is this IMPORTANT the current Mayor who has failed to call in the first BANK GUARANTEE WORTH MORE THAN ONE MILLION EURO TO BE SPENT ON THE INCOMPLETE INFRASTRUCTURE AT COSTA ESURI will be up for re-election.

It is our chance as owners and long term resident at CE to show him how we feel about his actions. He currently runs a minority coalition administration at the Town Hall and won his Mayorolity by only 50 votes. Things can change must change if CE is to become what we all hoped for. The way to do this is 51 of us to sign on the Padron and gain our SOLICITTUD DE VOTO. The first part is easy as explained in the first part of this thread.

SL how do we get the Solicitud De Voto I think I have tried but been turned away?

I called the Town Hall. They said it still had no SOLICITUD DE VOTO. In any case, in my opinion, is good start to register now. Again call the Town Hall. If I have news, will write here.

spanish_lawyer Jul 13th 2010 11:59 pm

Re: 20.000!
 

Originally Posted by Reptonian (Post 8700629)
John and SL,

Why is 51 an important number? Does Esuri not count as part of the town of Ayamonte until then?

If we sign on the Padron, does that not give us the right to vote, or is there some additional admin to be done?

Jonathan

If you sign the register, you are entitled to vote. In my humble opinion, the time of the elections, the citizens have to say through their vote how they want to be governed. It is the best time to complain about the activity of the previous four years, or to praise it.

First you must register and then (the non-Spanish) you ought to sign a document called solicitud de voto. So far, it still was not available that application. However, it is best to register now and then (if they decide that it is obligatory, because they can change it) sign the document.

EsuriJohn Jul 14th 2010 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by Reptonian (Post 8700805)
John,

I must be brain-dead ofc 51 is the difference in the last vote! Must be the heat here in M-G! :o

No its an age thing (Cynthia)! when you get to my advanced stage you can't even remember what 2+2 is.


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