Originally Posted by Griff

the seniority system exists across all occupations. As I said in my post I truly believe that promotion should be earnt not a given, otherwise we end up with the wrong people at the head of a department.

Originally Posted by ann m

dboy - Yep - likewise - and this is not the place to write about policing, so I haven't either.

But you must acknowledge that whatever one's experiences of a new country - they can be tainted or glorified by what you see and deal with. It makes no different if you are an accountant, a nurse, a police officer or a truck driver. What you find in your line of business highlights your experiences and gives you your opinions of the business and sometimes therefore the country.

As we often say on here - no-one is right or wrong - no country is better or worse - you own experiences shape your views

Originally Posted by The Aviator

Seniority exists in many industries in many countries, the unions are largely to thank for that. No longer does the best person get the job or promotion.

It happened in the UK years ago when BA took over BCal. BCal crews slipped into the BA seniority line irrespective of experience or competence. FOs who were in line for a command with BCal suddenly found themselves way down the list and some never managed to move up so left for pastures new.

Fact of life I am afraid, we often don't always end up with the best people in the job.

Originally Posted by The Aviator

No longer does the best person get the job or promotion.

Fact of life I am afraid...

Originally Posted by Griff

very true
I have just had my brother need emergency heart surgery about 6 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by ann m

Doesn't make it right though - and if you have not come from this type of set up, it can be a rather rude awakening ....hence Griff's yearning to return I suspect.

Put up and shut up I suppose - so that it can continue for ever and a day ...

Originally Posted by The Aviator

Did not say it was right, just the way it is in many work places. A unionised work place does not always work in the best interests of the most skilled and dedicated employees. I cannot see a way of getting rid of this type of system, there are many who would not even get a job outside of it.

Originally Posted by Jules Europe

The service seems to have deprived you of any humanity and empathy towards others. Do you believe this to be a blessing?

Originally Posted by dboy

sorry to hear that. Hope all is well.

Originally Posted by dboy

Noticed you are ex Navy - me too. Mine warfare - operations branch. My service number was D205827D - funny how you don't forget that! Maybe there is something for said for finding it easier to move around having come from the armed forces?

Originally Posted by The Aviator

Could well do. Even after I came out I was traveling a lot, so never really stayed in one place for very long. Makes retirement a challenge, may end up taking another job. Not sure yet.

Originally Posted by rae

you really are an utter twat. have you explained yet your reasons for trolling around on this area of expats when you are a spanish bricklayer who studied in the UK for 6mths and once you realised you could throw up a few walls in typical spanish fashion went back to spain??
you are not British, you are not an expat, you are not moving back to the UK, but i think the majority know exactly what you are, superior, condescending knob, is what i was thinking.

Originally Posted by dboy

Noticed you are ex Navy - me too. Mine warfare - operations branch. My service number was D205827D - funny how you don't forget that! Maybe there is something for said for finding it easier to move around having come from the armed forces?

Originally Posted by Jules Europe

Strangely enough I was thinking the same thing about you. Admittedly though, we have to swap the bricklayer angle for the low grade copper in your case.

I see that you are now using full stops when constructing sentences, so that at least should be applauded, even though you still haven`t quite grasped what capital letters are! Do they actually let you write police reports out?

Originally Posted by MartianTom

Apparently, it's the longest word in the English language and means something like 'the action of estimating something as worthless'. Appropriate for this thread, perhaps

Not sure of the etymology, but I'm sure Jules could help us out with that. Over to you, my man...