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Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 8th 2026, 12:32 pm
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By somebody

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Hello again, BIP:

A close friend is going through the PAP/JR process on this topic of dual 4C/4G and 4L eligibility and we wanted to see if we could add anything that might be of help to others....
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 4th 2025, 2:41 pm
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By somebody

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Hi again, BritInParis and others:

This has happened to a friend as well today and we are almost certainly going to do a strong PAP/reconsideration letter.
Would it help to bring a few people...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 23rd 2025, 4:25 pm
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

This is why I thought to brainstorm it out here. In practice, of course, the major issue remains documenting descent. My hunch is that most applicants of s1(3) countries which did not have general...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 22nd 2025, 1:18 pm
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Thanks for the clarification on PMs, Chris. My other posts were not about this situation.

I saw you had made some edits to your reply: in reference to the first version of your post, "kidnapping"...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 20th 2025, 2:59 pm
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Chris, I respect the nature of a public forum and have already mentioned that I would be happy to post an anonymous or synthesized result of the analysis for the benefit of others. I replied to every...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 20th 2025, 12:22 pm
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Sent you a private message because this is currently being worked by immigration attorneys.
Happy to extract / post relevant snippets to the extent they are helpful to others after our own...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 20th 2025, 10:04 am
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Quite a few from the CUKC citizen who suffered historical legislative unfairness, but we have enough records from the British Library to show descent (per the immigration attorney).
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 20th 2025, 8:28 am
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Hi there. That is not correct. I had an ancestor who, in 1962:

was a Commonwealth citizen
knew they were descended from an ancestor born in the United Kingdom in their male and female line, and...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 18th 2025, 9:10 am
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Re: 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Also to add, for the avoidance of doubt, that we are certain there was intent around 1962 (and prior), we are just unsure how to "prove" this intent other than the fact that they subsequently did...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 17th 2025, 7:25 pm
Replies: 15
Views: 2,167
Posted By somebody

Question 4L and s12(6) BNA 1948 / s11(3)(b) BNA 1981

Hello jmin, BritInParis, and everyone,

I am trying to understand how to properly submit a 4L application for a former British subject (born 1930s in an s1(3) BNA 1948 country) and daughter (born...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 18th 2023, 8:49 am
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

pallykin, immigration attorneys do not simply blindly apply Fransman or other texts. They make arguments based on the totality of facts and circumstances.
A British subject child who has lived...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 18th 2023, 7:15 am
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

Yes, and I believe this is the safest route forward for complex claims.

If this is important to you, and it sounds like it is, I would focus on finding the correct professional advisor instead of...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 18th 2023, 6:51 am
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

pallykin, I believe our situations are sufficiently similar. I will let you know via private message if we make any headway. Please give us a few weeks on this. Per the Home Office, "only the courts...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 17th 2023, 5:38 pm
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

jmin, I admire and respect all the help you provide on this forum. However, I disagree with your logic. You are saying that no British subject had the Right of Abode prior to 1948 unless they were...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 14th 2023, 4:39 am
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

Hi jmin! I was applying the logic to pallykin's case. Per his original post, his great-grandfather and grandfather were born in India, as British subjects.

Naturalization between 1870 and at least...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 13th 2023, 7:20 pm
Replies: 40
Views: 10,399
Posted By somebody

Re: CUKC or British Subject without Citizenship?

jmin, thank you for all the help and advice you provide to the forum.

pallykin: I just joined this board, and am in a similar situation with the family tree.
Here is the solution I am thinking,...
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