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Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 21st 2026, 2:53 am
Replies: 21
Views: 4,993
Posted By MOUK

Re: Section 4L children

There have always been situations like this in British nationality law, where outcomes between siblings or family members can seem very unfair.

My British born grandmother gave birth to five...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 10th 2026, 9:37 pm
Replies: 9
Views: 983
Posted By MOUK

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

Even if there is some sense in this, the law does not really seem to consider those kinds of indirect effects, and the difficulty is that, once you accept that discrimination directly or indirectly...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 10th 2026, 9:31 pm
Replies: 9
Views: 983
Posted By MOUK

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

Some people would argue that the discrimination itself shaped their life choices from the outset, as they were less likely even to consider moving to the UK, applying for a visa, or attending...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Mar 6th 2026, 11:20 pm
Replies: 4
Views: 984
Posted By MOUK

Re: Section 4L (ARD) advice - Born 1992 - Grandmother born in UK

Not that it makes a difference to the OP’s situation, but his father was born before 1961, so he wouldn’t have been eligible to register under Section 4C when it was introduced in 2003, as it...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 10:09 pm
Replies: 25
Views: 4,792
Posted By MOUK

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

For what it’s worth, British nationality law has been riddled with discrimination for generations. When your dad was registered in 2003 under section 4C, others in a similar position who were born...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 7:47 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,792
Posted By MOUK

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Sable’s free citizenship assessment is quite reliable, save yourself the back and forth.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 26th 2026, 5:42 am
Replies: 12
Views: 871
Posted By MOUK

Re: Form UKM and supporting documents

I mean, what can you do if you don’t have it? Like, what if the mother and daughter aren’t on good terms and the mother refuses to provide it. I really doubt that would disqualify the daughter. I...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 26th 2026, 4:55 am
Replies: 12
Views: 871
Posted By MOUK

Re: Form UKM and supporting documents

Not quite. British women could not pass on citizenship to children born abroad before 1 January 1983. She must first register as a British citizen under section 4C using form UKM, after which she can...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 22nd 2026, 10:37 am
Replies: 29
Views: 4,058
Posted By MOUK

Re: Form UKM eligibility - grandmother born UK 1912, need (I was born before 198

I think the harm/unfairness at the heart of many Section 4L cases is the fact that consular birth registration wasn’t made available to our female ancestors, while it was available to British men...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 22nd 2026, 7:21 am
Replies: 29
Views: 4,058
Posted By MOUK

Re: Form UKM eligibility - grandmother born UK 1912, need (I was born before 198

Can't she simply explain that it was a document that wasn’t needed in the first place? I’m not sure why it was sent, especially since you answered “no” when she asked whether she had to send...
Forum: Middle East
Jan 7th 2026, 8:53 pm
Replies: 4
Views: 1,524
Posted By MOUK

Re: British Expat considering a move to Bahrain or near

These places tend to work best for Westerners for a defined period of time to save money and gain experience, rather than as an open-ended lifestyle change. It’s also important to be realistic...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 31st 2025, 10:00 pm
Replies: 11
Views: 1,910
Posted By MOUK

Re: FORM ARD Form & Documentation Question

Yes, based on what you shared. I’d wait for BritInParis to advise on next steps.
Forum: ME Job Discussions
Dec 26th 2025, 9:18 am
Replies: 4
Views: 646
Posted By MOUK

Re: Jordan - Opportunity

Yeah, that's likely. Even if your work is related to the newly announced “Amra city,” you’d likely be commuting to and from Amman.

I was born and raised in Amman, and I’d be happy to...
Forum: ME Job Discussions
Dec 24th 2025, 2:53 am
Replies: 4
Views: 646
Posted By MOUK

Re: Jordan - Opportunity

Where in Jordan? Amman, especially West Amman, is expensive compared to other governorates and other cities in the Levant and North Africa. However, Jordan is still more affordable overall than Gulf...
Forum: USA
Dec 4th 2025, 6:03 am
Replies: 32
Views: 4,103
Posted By MOUK

Re: GOP senator moves to end dual citizenship

It says that because there are six types of British nationality, and British citizenship is one of them. Every British citizen is a British national, but not every British national is a citizen. For...
Forum: USA
Dec 4th 2025, 4:12 am
Replies: 32
Views: 4,103
Posted By MOUK

Re: GOP senator moves to end dual citizenship

Although dual nationality is normal and part of modern life, the reason a ban is unlikely to ever pass is that too many powerful and globally connected people, including people in politics and their...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 27th 2025, 8:37 pm
Replies: 502
Views: 170,358
Posted By MOUK

Re: British Citizenship by Discretion (CBR post 1982)

I agree, and I’m aware it’s mentioned in the Home Office staff guidance that the child would normally be registered, or something along those lines. However, when this registration route first...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 22nd 2025, 10:42 pm
Replies: 502
Views: 170,358
Posted By MOUK

Re: British Citizenship by Discretion (CBR post 1982)

If you’re not finding any recent timelines to compare with, it might be worth checking posts or updates from lawyers or law firms. If they’re still actively marketing MN1/s.3(1) registration for...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 13th 2025, 4:15 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,792
Posted By MOUK

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Probably a measure to limit the number of Section 4L citizens, who are given citizenship otherwise than by descent and whose minor children born before registration are eligible to be registered.
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Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Oct 17th 2025, 5:25 pm
Replies: 29
Views: 4,058
Posted By MOUK

Re: Form UKM eligibility - grandmother born UK 1912, need (I was born before 198

I suggest you send your grandparents’ marriage certificate as well. I doubt they’ll need your father’s death certificate, but there’s no harm in including it.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jul 13th 2025, 8:14 pm
Replies: 10
Views: 2,019
Posted By MOUK

Re: British Passport Application

If applying from overseas, the countersignatory doesn't need to be a British citizen or a UK resident. Our countersignatory was an EU citizen living in Asia


They’ll want the original...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 14th 2025, 9:12 pm
Replies: 46
Views: 8,273
Posted By MOUK

Re: Section 4L Application

Your minor children would be registered under section 3(1), not 3(2) or 3(5). Example 24 wasn't even in the guidance when other children like my niece and nephew were registered.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 5th 2024, 9:57 pm
Replies: 5
Views: 800
Posted By MOUK

Re: The curious case of...my aunt!

So interesting! I'll share this with the family, thank you so much!
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 5th 2024, 9:33 pm
Replies: 5
Views: 800
Posted By MOUK

Re: The curious case of...my aunt!

Wow, so it was a thing. And it included her because in 1979, she was under 18, correct?
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Dec 5th 2024, 9:05 pm
Replies: 5
Views: 800
Posted By MOUK

The curious case of...my aunt!

Hi,

Hoping BritInParis would be able to explain this, because we can't figure it out.

As you may know from my posts on section 4L, my English grandmother was born in Liverpool, got married in...
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