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Old Feb 12th 2014, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral View Post
The sums would suggest that he will be 4% better off financially, so it would be hard to argue that the change is detrimental. Maybe my maths is off though

edit to say that perhaps the driving force for the change is coming from the other recruiters who may feel that you have getting something more than them until now.
You're close, playing with numbers it is a 1.9% increase on average invoice if I recalculated all invoices.

The frustrating bit is that it's where I've been most successful, 38% of my invoices generated 56% of total revenue. It's an absolute gold mine and I see absolutely no reason to offer it up so easily.

Your edit is probably on the money. There's only two of us doing it and the other is more senior, holds the cards and has the final say. I seem to give a fair chunk more than I get. I stand to gain 1.9%, he will gain 19-20%.
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Old Feb 12th 2014, 7:54 am
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You're close, playing with numbers it is a 1.9% increase on average invoice if I recalculated all invoices.

The frustrating bit is that it's where I've been most successful, 38% of my invoices generated 56% of total revenue. It's an absolute gold mine and I see absolutely no reason to offer it up so easily.

Your edit is probably on the money. There's only two of us doing it and the other is more senior, holds the cards and has the final say. I seem to give a fair chunk more than I get. I stand to gain 1.9%, he will gain 19-20%.
I doubt there is much you can do, so either you will have to accept it or silently seethe to yourself at work. Unless your contract has some clearly defined bonus scheme, which they are now in breach of.

Anyhow in this situation I would probably accept it and not let it affect my attitude, but at the same time be planning my exit.
You are probably well placed to get another job easily, and judging by the amount of calls I am getting now the market is rising.
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Scamp - life lesson from Millhouse here. Say yes to them, and carry on doing as you were/ want to do -- fight the argument when it needs fighting, you are arguing about a theory now.

In every job I have done, I have pretty much worked around 30-50% of my time outside of my department/ department's strategy. There comes a time when they give up trying to stop this.
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral View Post
I doubt there is much you can do, so either you will have to accept it or silently seethe to yourself at work. Unless your contract has some clearly defined bonus scheme, which they are now in breach of.

Anyhow in this situation I would probably accept it and not let it affect my attitude, but at the same time be planning my exit.
You are probably well placed to get another job easily, and judging by the amount of calls I am getting now the market is rising.
I think you're right mate. Just had another classic.

Me; they've just said they want to do something that I'm not sure they can.
Boss; just ignore it, say OK and answer the next question.
Someone else more senior: Err, Scamp, you need to re-think that, they can't just do it, why aren't you communicating with 'Boss'?

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Old Feb 12th 2014, 8:15 am
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In every job I have done, I have pretty much worked around 30-50% of my time outside of my department/ department's strategy. There comes a time when they give up trying to stop this.
Does doing this affect how much they pay you though?
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Does doing this affect how much they pay you though?
sometimes - I did miss a promotion once (got it the next year). But that is short-term stuff, you need to think long-term and over the long-term definitely not.
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Scamp - life lesson from Millhouse here. Say yes to them, and carry on doing as you were/ want to do -- fight the argument when it needs fighting, you are arguing about a theory now.

In every job I have done, I have pretty much worked around 30-50% of my time outside of my department/ department's strategy. There comes a time when they give up trying to stop this.
Or get rid of you.
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Or get rid of you.
only if you play a bad political game.
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only if you play a bad political game.
If you're playing substantially outside the dept's game, you need significant support at a level (or levels) about the dept. In my experience even that doesn't help often.
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I think you're right mate. Just had another classic.

Me; they've just said they want to do something that I'm not sure they can.
Boss; just ignore it, say OK and answer the next question.
Someone else more senior: Err, Scamp, you need to re-think that, they can't just do it, why aren't you communicating with 'Boss'?


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I'm glad I'm not in your line of work - when I cannot even begin to understand a simple three-line conversation............

Anyway - there is always someone worse off than you - and at the moment, that's me. I have just had the biggest shafting of my career. That's 35 years......
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Is the correct answer whilst sharpening up the CV and rubbing the networking/linkedin genie.
Sounds about right - jump before you are pushed. Always have a plan B in this part of the world
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I'm glad I'm not in your line of work - when I cannot even begin to understand a simple three-line conversation............

Anyway - there is always someone worse off than you - and at the moment, that's me. I have just had the biggest shafting of my career. That's 35 years......
Must've been a big shaft. Sorry to hear about that. Unfortunately, as I've witnessed at close hand, shit happens at all levels. Can you give us the bare bones?
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