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scrubbedexpat141 Nov 1st 2012 8:00 am

Urgent Advice please
 
Wedding this arvo.

Blue suit.
White shirt.
An array of ties.

Pocket square - what are the rules?

Matching / Not matching?
Neat slip / stuffed in / pointed?

White pocket square with a pale coloured tie acceptable?

Thanks in advance for any (good) jokes and advice.

Scampdoesntneedapocketsquaretolookhotbutthinksitsa ppropriate.

mentalist Nov 1st 2012 8:26 am

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I suggest a brightly coloured bow tie, monocle and walking stick. Just the business. Is it a church do?

Crewegirl Nov 1st 2012 8:37 am

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Pointed pocket square and it would be nice if it matched the tie in colour. In my opinion....
If not, a tie with a bit of white in.

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 8:46 am

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Good god, definitely not matching. Colour mustn't clash with tie, nor must pattern. Sedate tie + loud square, or vice verca. Or Bond/50's style white pocket kerchief, squared-off and neat, but only if the rest of the ensemble suits (which probably means a narrow, quiet tie, thin reveres and slim-fitting suit).

Alternatively shiny silver/grey trousers and black coat, or vice verca. With white shirt and black or loud tie.

kittycat1 Nov 1st 2012 8:57 am

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Depends what you want to say about yourself scampy

What colour and fit is the suit?

I like white shirts personally- (if its a good shirt)- and with a well tied tie and keep your tie on for as long as possible. It's formal but timeless and elegant- nice cufflinks- NOT comedy ones. Coloured shirt make it less formal though in my opinion and you risk looking like a twat.

Waistcoat ? I do love a man in a 3 piece suit :-)

Personally I like a suit without a pocket square especially if its a good well cut suit, however if you have to have one do not point it! stuff it in in a gathered or folded in neatly- never pointed. matching tie to pocket square is a bit dated.

Also keep your jacket on for as long as possible!

Meow Nov 1st 2012 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360341)
Good god, definitely not matching. Colour mustn't clash with tie, nor must pattern. Sedate tie + loud square, or vice verca. Or Bond/50's style white pocket kerchief, squared-off and neat, but only if the rest of the ensemble suits (which probably means a narrow, quiet tie, thin reveres and slim-fitting suit).

Alternatively shiny silver/grey trousers and black coat, or vice verca. With white shirt and black or loud tie.

Not a black tie. Ordinary black ties should only be worn at funerals or when in mourning.

Scampi - just wear your usual sailor suit.

http://i47.tinypic.com/1zb3oup.png

britexpat76 Nov 1st 2012 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 10360357)
Also keep your jacket on for as long as possible!

That will also hide your sweat patches.

Meow Nov 1st 2012 9:04 am

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But not this one Scampi, OK? It just gives off the wrong signals...

http://i49.tinypic.com/fxtkdg.jpg

kittycat1 Nov 1st 2012 9:05 am

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brit- whats the point in wearing a suit if you are taking the jacket off? I mean presumably you wouldn't be wearing a heavy wool suit out here, men look good in suits, men don't look as good in trousers a shirt and tie. - you can't beat Sean Connery in that 3 piece suit (Goldfinger) did he ever take his jacket off- no- and he was saving the world!

Theseus Nov 1st 2012 9:09 am

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A good looking man in a well cut suit - with no tie and his shirt undone a little bit, while still wearing his jacket in that, i've just fended off a gang of henchmen, kinda look. mmmmmmm

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 9:10 am

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Plain suit + ornate waistcoat works, too.

Agree with Kitty, no joke cufflinks, they are naff beyond belief. And--not that you'd do this--no buttons on the cuffs: you either have cuffs that are made for buttons or cuffs that are made for cufflinks.

And make sure your collar and cuffs match, just in case...

Meow Nov 1st 2012 9:12 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360383)
Plain suit + ornate waistcoat works, too.

Agree with Kitty, no joke cufflinks, they are naff beyond belief. And--not that you'd do this--no buttons on the cuffs: you either have cuffs that are made for buttons or cuffs that are made for cufflinks.

And make sure your collar and cuffs match, just in case...

Ornate waistcoat? NO! They are as bad as comedy cufflinks or ties.

kittycat1 Nov 1st 2012 9:12 am

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ornate waistcoats if you are over a certain age and never want to get laid again or scottish

you are neither scamp so don't listen to bahtatboy

weasel decentral Nov 1st 2012 9:13 am

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http://u1.ipernity.com/16/74/63/9297...2e52d1.560.jpg

difficult look to pull off but you might just have the style to do it :nod:

Meow Nov 1st 2012 9:15 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 10360389)
ornate waistcoats if you are over a certain age and never want to get laid again or scottish

you are neither scamp so don't listen to bahtatboy

:rofl: Exactly!

Gents, do listen to us. A good quality, well cut suit is a winner. I'd also vote for French cuffs and cufflinks. Shiny fabrics, ill-fitting or badly cut suits, especially ones that are too heavy for this climate are as bad as wearing crocs.

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10360387)
Ornate waistcoat? NO! They are as bad as comedy cufflinks or ties.

For a wedding? No! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Ornate waistcoats are traditional.

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Theseus Nov 1st 2012 9:18 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360402)
For a wedding? No! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Ornate waistcoats are traditional.

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Only if you are a groomsman and the groom hates you. :lol:

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 9:20 am

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Interesting... 3 ladies v me. Any other blokes have a view?

Miss Anne Thrope Nov 1st 2012 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10360304)
Wedding this arvo.

Blue suit.
White shirt.
An array of ties.

Pocket square - what are the rules?

Matching / Not matching?
Neat slip / stuffed in / pointed?

White pocket square with a pale coloured tie acceptable?

Thanks in advance for any (good) jokes and advice.

Scampdoesntneedapocketsquaretolookhotbutthinksitsa ppropriate.

Depends. is it your wedding?

weasel decentral Nov 1st 2012 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360410)
Interesting... 3 ladies v me. Any other blokes have a view?

Shite mate. The equivalent of a Homer Simpson comedy tie.
I think I wore one to my school's graduation, not sure if I got laid or not but can't fully blame the waistcoat for that

Meow Nov 1st 2012 9:28 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360402)
For a wedding? No! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Ornate waistcoats are traditional.

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The aren't really. They may have become popular amongst certain types but they aren't traditional. You can wear a striped or coloured waistcoat with a morning suit, but that's about it. Anything else is naff.

The Dean Nov 1st 2012 9:30 am

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What sort of wedding are you anticipating?

The Graduate? The Invention of Lying? Bridesmaids? Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves?

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 9:31 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10360428)
The aren't really. They may have become popular amongst certain types but they aren't traditional. You can wear a striped or coloured waistcoat with a morning suit, but that's about it. Anything else is naff.

Cobblers. That's an 18th century waistcoat, how much more traditional do you want?

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Meow Nov 1st 2012 9:35 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360436)
Cobblers. That's an 18th century waistcoat, how much more traditional do you want?

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Yes, if you are in the 18th century and wearing the complete outfit. Not with a lounge suit.

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10360441)
Yes, if you are in the 18th century and wearing the complete outfit. Not with a lounge suit.

So they are traditional. And lounge suit + lairy waistcoat isn't new. Its a wedding, you're meant to dress up. If you can pull it off, do it.

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kittycat1 Nov 1st 2012 9:53 am

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any images since the 1930s bahtatboy?

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 10360478)
any images since the 1930s bahtatboy?

:banghead:
Oh bleedin' hell. Traditional in 18th Century. In vogue in 30's (actually those pics from 50's). "No, no --they're not traditional, you can't see them being worn in every decade since God was in shorts."

Meow Nov 1st 2012 10:03 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360465)
So they are traditional. And lounge suit + lairy waistcoat isn't new. Its a wedding, you're meant to dress up. If you can pull it off, do it.

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Class and style trumps any comedy outfit...

Bahtatboy Nov 1st 2012 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10360499)
Class and style trumps any comedy outfit...

Says the cat in a fan belt ;)

Meow Nov 1st 2012 10:05 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360497)
:banghead:
Oh bleedin' hell. Traditional in 18th Century. In vogue in 30's (actually those pics from 50's). "No, no --they're not traditional, you can't see them being worn in every decade since God was in shorts."

Traditional in their time. You do realise that the 30s were rather a long time ago?

It's a question of taste. Some have it. Some obviously don't.

Meow Nov 1st 2012 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10360502)
Says the cat in a fan belt ;)

Traditional dress? ;)

The Dean Nov 1st 2012 10:13 am

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Look you lot - he's gone. He's already on his way there - wearing a blue suit (see Post No 1).

No waistcoat goes with a blue suit. OK? :frown:

Patsy Stoned Nov 1st 2012 10:47 am

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Have him washed down and sent to my tent!!:wub::wub:

mentalist Nov 1st 2012 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Patsy Stoned (Post 10360560)
Have him washed down and sent to my tent!!:wub::wub:

Ooh, you are awful...but I like you.;)

Cypselos Nov 1st 2012 1:15 pm

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If it's the same wedding i saw people heading to at lunchtime he can wear whatever the hell he likes so long as it's exceedingly short and low cut

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 1st 2012 9:48 pm

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Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 10360424)
Shite mate. The equivalent of a Homer Simpson comedy tie.
I think I wore one to my school's graduation, not sure if I got laid or not but can't fully blame the waistcoat for that

I don't think it was the waist coat

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 1st 2012 9:52 pm

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Fascinating advice.

I agree with Bahtat a lot. But also meow and KC.

Interesting.

I wore a blue tailor made slim fit suit. Tan brown shoes. White TM Lewin shirt, grey with ivory large dot Paul smith tie, white pocket square. Not pointed but rounded casually.

I looked ****ing incredible.

Advice was read and noted. Appreciate it all.

Cue onslaught for:

- labels
- brown shoes
- being jealous that you can't pull it off.

Patsy Stoned Nov 1st 2012 10:09 pm

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[QUOTE=Scamp;10361563]

I wore a blue tailor made slim fit suit. Tan brown shoes. White TM Lewin shirt, grey with ivory large dot Paul smith tie, white pocket square. Not pointed but rounded casually. /QUOTE]

NOOOOO from the start...blue suit and brown shoes!!!!!!!

flares Nov 2nd 2012 2:03 am

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Slim fit?

Bit Alexi Sayle

The Dean Nov 2nd 2012 4:28 am

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[QUOTE=Patsy Stoned;10361582]

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10361563)

I wore a blue tailor made slim fit suit. Tan brown shoes. White TM Lewin shirt, grey with ivory large dot Paul smith tie, white pocket square. Not pointed but rounded casually. /QUOTE]

NOOOOO from the start...blue suit and brown shoes!!!!!!!

Depends...... Light Brown? Dark Brown? Tan?

[Golden Rule: the suit should never be darker than the shoes]


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