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Old Nov 21st 2007, 7:17 am
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No doubt you've all heard they have lost a CD with 25m peoples Bank details, NI number, and addresses etc. Cant wait for the new ID card!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7104945.stm

The crazy thing is they sent it in the post with no data encryption! WTF!
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Originally Posted by maranelloman
No doubt you've all heard they have lost a CD with 25m peoples Bank details, NI number, and addresses etc. Cant wait for the new ID card!

:curse::curse::curse:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7104945.stm

The crazy thing is they sent it in the post with no data encryption! WTF!
How do these people get dressed in the morning
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How do these people get dressed in the morning
Its a complicated process involving a large government committee.
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Old Nov 21st 2007, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by maranelloman
No doubt you've all heard they have lost a CD with 25m peoples Bank details, NI number, and addresses etc. Cant wait for the new ID card!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7104945.stm

The crazy thing is they sent it in the post with no data encryption! WTF!
It wasnt Labour wot lost it 'twas a civil service muppet. Why do you blame labour? They dont post every individual piece of mail from Customs and excise you know
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Originally Posted by ex_exile
It wasnt Labour wot lost it 'twas a civil service muppet. Why do you blame labour? They dont post every individual piece of mail from Customs and excise you know
Well they only put it in the post due to cost cuts meaning they couldnt use registered mail. And at the end of the day the buck stops at the top. Probably not even Darling as Brown was the one who "modernised" the relavent departments. But yes the Civil Service are just as incompetant.

Mail should never have been used anyway. In our company we can only transfer customer account info over a secure ftp, and encrypted. If for any reason it cannot be done that way then we may possibly transport it by car on CD, encrypted with 2 people in the car. This option has never been used. I cannot believe that they made such a basic error.
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Mail should never have been used anyway. In our company we can only transfer customer account info over a secure ftp, and encrypted. If for any reason it cannot be done that way then we may possibly transport it by car on CD, encrypted with 2 people in the car. This option has never been used. I cannot believe that they made such a basic error.
Exactly. Anybody who was in a position to be in posession of this data should have known its importants and not freaking mailed it, you should not need to be told this and to say that govenment cut backs caused this person to basically forget all of the principles of data security simply doesnt wash. Why the hell wasnt it encrypted anyway? Surely we are not putting this down to cutbacks too? Someone on site fraked up bigtime, galactic proportions. the CIO and his entire team should be packed up and out of there long since but I doubt that this has happened.
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Exactly. Anybody who was in a position to be in posession of this data should have known its importants and not freaking mailed it, you should not need to be told this and to say that govenment cut backs caused this person to basically forget all of the principles of data security simply doesnt wash. Why the hell wasnt it encrypted anyway? Surely we are not putting this down to cutbacks too? Someone on site fraked up bigtime, galactic proportions. the CIO and his entire team should be packed up and out of there long since but I doubt that this has happened.
I agree that the blame lies with the Civil Service, but the government must take some responsibility, even if heads dont roll. Last night on newsnight they were on about ID cards are still plausable as we need to learn from this mistake to ensure it doesnt happen again. Wake up! Human error! No proceedure will ever stop it entirely. To collect even more data will only eventually lead to a bigger problem in the future.
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geez, the incompetence beggars belief...

of course it's the civil servant's fault, friggin muppet...but the relevant SoS must take ultimate responsiblity...

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geez, the incompetence beggars belief...

of course it's the civil servant's fault, friggin muppet...but the relevant SoS must take ultimate responsiblity...

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exactly - that's the entire basis of the system - CSs do the work but ministers are ultimately responsible.

Mind you, that was in the old days of democracy when the government was held accountable and answerable to the people. Now that's been reversed, who knows what's next...

Just wait for them to spin this into a 'How the NIR (ID card database) would have prevented this loss of data in the first place' tirade, which the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' muppets will lap up.

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exactly - that's the entire basis of the system - CSs do the work but ministers are ultimately responsible.

Mind you, that was in the old days of democracy when the government was held accountable and answerable to the people. Now that's been reversed, who knows what's next...

Just wait for them to spin this into a 'How the NIR (ID card database) would have prevented this loss of data in the first place' tirade, which the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' muppets will lap up.

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Let's do a march together sometime, Komrade....
Or we could all just go to the Pub instead ???
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Or we could all just go to the Pub instead ???
Alcohol is the opiate of the apathetic, sister.... Come be revolting with me.
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Or we could all just go to the Pub instead ???
theres Scottish socialism for you
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Alcohol is the opiate of the apathetic, sister.... Come be revolting with me.
Naaaaaaaaaaa......Pub
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414 Million !!!! There must be a pub inside ???
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