Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Is the restaurant scene in Dubai overstuffed to bursting point? | The National
'In Dubai there is one place to eat for about every 280 inhabitants. In New York, it is one for about 420' Your views on the dining scene? What's missing? What don't you like? I find East Asian, particularly Chinese, a constant disappointment in Dubai. All the Asian places end up being 'pan asian' meaning a smorgasbord of dull quasi-Asian dishes. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
I still love LemonGrass in Lamcy Plaza for Thai.
let's face it, the population (and their spending power) is dropping, there is more and more competition, what do the restauranteurs think will happen? |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12192713)
Is the restaurant scene in Dubai overstuffed to bursting point? | The National
'In Dubai there is one place to eat for about every 280 inhabitants. In New York, it is one for about 420' Your views on the dining scene? What's missing? What don't you like? I find East Asian, particularly Chinese, a constant disappointment in Dubai. All the Asian places end up being 'pan asian' meaning a smorgasbord of dull quasi-Asian dishes. Coya was pretty good but to have 4 or 5 of these places around town , there's only so much ceviche a working man can stomach . |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12192837)
Seriously, in 2017 do you think that is a remotely acceptable term to use?
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by mission
(Post 12192903)
ok my bad....but in all honesty i don't mean it in a derogatory manner....just the way I express myself....
But I agree that the Chinese food in Dubai is mostly shit! |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12192945)
But I agree that the Chinese food in Dubai is mostly shit!
That about sums it up. :thumbdown: |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
We don't have too many great places to eat in Doha but Nobu is a bit of an exception, once you get past the bar fly lounge lizard pretentious twat brigade. At least the bar is well separated from the restaurant. Peruvian Japanese fusion might sound odd but it really is quite an experience, even after a few times. Get started with the salmon sashimi with jalapenos and go from there. Bring the extra flexible plastic though :)
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
I've found having 2 at the same time can somewhat alleviate that problem :)
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12193967)
The trouble with Chinkies (it's always been called "The Chinkies" in the North, there is no animosity behind it, but if you want to be offended snowflake, so be it), is, you have one and an hour later you want another.
Regardless of whether or not you think there is animosity behind your usage, the following facts remain: - the word has been used to belittle and abuse a whole community of people based simply on their ethnicity; - accordingly, most people from that community (people of East Asian birth and descent living in the West) have indicated that they do not find it an acceptable word to use. Therefore if you insist on continuing to use it in the face of the simple and reasonable request not to use it then it follows that you are very ignorant or very bigoted. Or probably both. Being from the North is absolutely no excuse or alibi. In fact it ought to make you a little more sensitive to prejudice. And hiding behind "snowflake" which is the latest alt-right replacement for "political correctness" to justify bigoted speech doesn't work either. Oh and finishing off with a tired old stereotype which wasn't very funny when Jim Davidson (or Bernard Manning or whoever the hell) first trotted it out only makes it worse... |
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Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12194118)
I'm not offended personally by the use of that word but I do find the use of the word to be offensive by any simple and reasonable standard.
Regardless of whether or not you think there is animosity behind your usage, the following facts remain: - the word has been used to belittle and abuse a whole community of people based simply on their ethnicity; - accordingly, most people from that community (people of East Asian birth and descent living in the West) have indicated that they do not find it an acceptable word to use. Therefore if you insist on continuing to use it in the face of the simple and reasonable request not to use it then it follows that you are very ignorant or very bigoted. Or probably both. Being from the North is absolutely no excuse or alibi. In fact it ought to make you a little more sensitive to prejudice. And hiding behind "snowflake" which is the latest alt-right replacement for "political correctness" to justify bigoted speech doesn't work either. Oh and finishing off with a tired old stereotype which wasn't very funny when Jim Davidson (or Bernard Manning or whoever the hell) first trotted it out only makes it worse... |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
I can't believe an adult just used 'snowflake'.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194312)
I'm glad that you are protecting the minority interests of the Chinese readership of a British expats forum.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12194728)
I'm hardly protecting anybody from anything - I'm just expressing an important principle as you know very well: they came for the Jews and I did nothing, then they came for the Muslims etc..
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12194728)
I'm hardly protecting anybody from anything - I'm just expressing an important principle as you know very well: they came for the Jews and I did nothing, then they came for the Muslims etc..
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12194732)
Oh come off it Gweilo and Chinky are not equivalent s and it's compeltely disingenuous to claim they are.
Paddy and Pouf don't rank as the most offensive words in the language either but if somebody chooses to throw either of them at me (and I don't know them very well) then: 1. I know they are a bigoted cnut; 2. they better be ready for a fight. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194731)
I once wrote an article about the murder of a Chinese restaurant worker in my local area for my school news paper. I went with the headline "I could murder a Chinese!" The teacher loved it, so did the people, but the PC police censored me. It was a sad day.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by weasel decentral
(Post 12194734)
:lol: was your local school paper the Sunday Sport?
My group was full of idiots and there was no way we were going to produce the times, so we went with a "sun"/"sport" theme. (with me doing the factual articles) |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194727)
Same in newly paved concrete parts of Beijing, "Fancy a gweilo"
I can only imagine a bebo notice board literally catches fire when someone says gweilo and all the lefties jump in to defend the minorities. Exactly , we've become a nation of the perpetually offended . |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194733)
I am offended by being called Gweilo. So that makes it wrong.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12194747)
I'd never even heard this term before.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12194747)
I'd never even heard this term before.
I wore it like a badge of honour ! |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by co durham boy
(Post 12194738)
Exactly , we've become a nation of the perpetually offended .
For example, there are a number of well-known words that have been specifically used to demean and bully some minority groups who, in the past, have been powerless to fight back. Now they have identified those words as demeaning (and words like cripple and spastic are good examples also) and asked that people not use them. I think it is a matter of common public decency not to use demeaning language. I realise that sometimes people may do this inadvertently but why persist once this has been pointed out? Everybody is free to use whatever words they wish but whereas in the past there may have been no consequences to this, now that will reflect on them and they may be called out and sanctioned for it. It's really not that hard to be a decent human being. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194749)
Even worse, there is a billion people with a word for you and no one is protecting our minority rights.
Originally Posted by co durham boy
(Post 12194769)
Used extensively in HK in the 90's . I can fondly remember the Hong Kong Chinese engineers on our project using it like a derogatory term of endearment .
I wore it like a badge of honour ! |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Aside from the discussion regarding if the term is offensive or not, it doesn't stop the Chinese having no problem calling us 'Gweilos'..... As with all so called offensive terms, it generally only us who try to limit the use of them. The rest of the world happily calls us a variety of names..... The only difference is we don't get upset about it.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194749)
Even worse, there is a billion people with a word for you and no one is protecting our minority rights.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12194791)
Aside from the discussion regarding if the term is offensive or not, it doesn't stop the Chinese having no problem calling us 'Gweilos'..... As with all so called offensive terms, it generally only us who try to limit the use of them. The rest of the world happily calls us a variety of names..... The only difference is we don't get upset about it.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by martinbkk
(Post 12193890)
We don't have too many great places to eat in Doha but Nobu is a bit of an exception, once you get past the bar fly lounge lizard pretentious twat brigade. At least the bar is well separated from the restaurant. Peruvian Japanese fusion might sound odd but it really is quite an experience, even after a few times. Get started with the salmon sashimi with jalapenos and go from there. Bring the extra flexible plastic though :)
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12194791)
Aside from the discussion regarding if the term is offensive or not, it doesn't stop the Chinese having no problem calling us 'Gweilos'..... As with all so called offensive terms, it generally only us who try to limit the use of them. The rest of the world happily calls us a variety of names..... The only difference is we don't get upset about it.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
If it wasn't for the Nips
Being so good at making ships The docks would still be open on the Tyne That used to be acceptable. And correct. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12194797)
I think we're still apologising for the Empire, right?
I kinda missed a whole page so was a page behind.... Oops! So if Gweilo is apparently OK, how about Gora? Cracker? Gringo? I need to know when I am allowed to punch someone (as Miss A T has indicated is OK). In other news, how many of you use the term 'nitty gritty' and without using google know what it refers to? |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12194814)
So if Gweilo is apparently OK, how about Gora? Cracker? Gringo? I need to know when I am allowed to punch someone (as Miss A T has indicated is OK).
We choose when to be offended. I have a gay colleague who I have absolutely no issue with. I accidentally offended him this week (his choice) when I said something along the lines of (when talking about a common friend with depression), "well I'm not going to judge his behavior, when men are down you medicate with either women or beer" His choice to be offended by my accidental choice word of "women" vs. "sex". He could have equally taken it as a positive spin of me treating him a a total equal in my eyes. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12194779)
That's not the point here. I agree that some people are too quick to take offence or are looking for reasons to be offended. This does not mean that there are not genuinely offensive terms.
For example, there are a number of well-known words that have been specifically used to demean and bully some minority groups who, in the past, have been powerless to fight back. Now they have identified those words as demeaning (and words like cripple and spastic are good examples also) and asked that people not use them. I think it is a matter of common public decency not to use demeaning language. I realise that sometimes people may do this inadvertently but why persist once this has been pointed out? Everybody is free to use whatever words they wish but whereas in the past there may have been no consequences to this, now that will reflect on them and they may be called out and sanctioned for it. It's really not that hard to be a decent human being. Who all look the same :lol: |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194819)
My old boss used to say... you choose your mood.
We choose when to be offended. I have a gay colleague who I have absolutely no issue with. I accidentally offended him this week (his choice) when I said something along the lines of (when talking about a common friend with depression), "well I'm not going to judge his behavior, when men are down you medicate with either women or beer" His choice to be offended by my accidental choice word of "women" vs. "sex". He could have equally taken it as a positive spin of me treating him a a total equal in my eyes. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by weasel decentral
(Post 12194826)
That 'i have a gay colleague' I have assumed is you. Are you gay? Just asking for a friend :lol:
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194819)
My old boss used to say... you choose your mood.
We choose when to be offended. I have a gay colleague who I have absolutely no issue with. I accidentally offended him this week (his choice) when I said something along the lines of (when talking about a common friend with depression), "well I'm not going to judge his behavior, when men are down you medicate with either women or beer" His choice to be offended by my accidental choice word of "women" vs. "sex". He could have equally taken it as a positive spin of me treating him a a total equal in my eyes. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by jam25mack
(Post 12194814)
In other news, how many of you use the term 'nitty gritty' and without using google know what it refers to?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194819)
My old boss used to say... you choose your mood.
We choose when to be offended. I have a gay colleague who I have absolutely no issue with. I accidentally offended him this week (his choice) when I said something along the lines of (when talking about a common friend with depression), "well I'm not going to judge his behavior, when men are down you medicate with either women or beer" His choice to be offended by my accidental choice word of "women" vs. "sex". He could have equally taken it as a positive spin of me treating him a a total equal in my eyes. If you'd said: "well I'm not going to judge his behavior, when men are down you medicate with either women - because men only **** women and anything else is plain wrong, or beer" Then I could see someone being a bit upset at the lengths you went to make them feel uncomfortable. But you didn't do that and I know you wouldn't have meant any offense. BUT I will say that I don't know what it's like being a 'minority' whether race, LBGT, disabled etc. So maybe things I don't think would be offensive, would be, etc. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12194819)
...He could have equally taken it as a positive spin of me treating him as a total equal in my eyes.
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Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 12194812)
If it wasn't for the Nips
Being so good at making ships The docks would still be open on the Tyne That used to be acceptable. And correct. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 12194812)
If it wasn't for the Nips
Being so good at making ships The docks would still be open on the Tyne That used to be acceptable. And correct. |
Re: Too many restaurants in Dubai?
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 12194888)
Nobody's taken the bait yet ...
I agree that as Millhouse's anecdote is recounted, there is no reasonable basis for taking offence. But I've heard far too many of such alibi tales not to suspect there is something more behind it, whether Millhouse recognises it or not. And, in his current avatar as provocateur, I know he will not acknowledge that anyway even though I strongly suspect he does recognise that. And to address some other comments: I repeat, I am not offended. I am just pointing out speech that can be fairly and reasonably considered offensive. I could have let it go and avoided what I knew would become this tiresome argument full of straw men and dissembling (the British were the rulers in HK - not an oppressed minority ffs). But I think it's worth making a point and trying to get people to think a bit more even if I appear - this time - to be in a minority of one. Meanwhile is it any surprise this forum has become so utterly monotone? By the way, you know that the harder you fight to justify and sustain this casual low-level "soft prejudice", the easier you make it for people to take frivolous offence at everything? To paraphrase some judge: I can't necessarily describe bigotry but I know it when I see it and hear it, however many craven excuses and distractions people want to throw up to confuse the issue and justify their participation. |
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