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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/259
This article says a lot about how the UK profited from slavery . to just quote a couple of bits : Williams's study set out the explore the impact of African slavery on British economic development, his most celebrated claim being that profits from slavery helped to fertilize the British Industrial Revolution. Although not the first to discern a connection between slavery and capital accumulation - Marx and Hobson, among others, had been there before him - Williams was perhaps the first explicitly to attribute British industrialization to the gains from enslavement of Africans in the Americas. A second, equally provocative, theme articulated by Williams involved the impact of industrialization on British attitudes and policy towards the slave trade and slavery and included the claim that, contrary to then received interpretation, it was economic self interest, not humanitarianism, that drove nineteenth-century British antislavery. In yet further chapters he focuses on the impact of Atlantic trade on British financial institutions and commercial practices and on the economic fortunes of particular British ports, notably Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool and London. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10673629)
Thats a moronic comment. Slavery had been around since the ancient Egyptians - Used by Romans, any large country/civilisation was involved for over thousands of years - Some are still enslaving now...............
Britain stopped slavery as a wholesale business and then made sure it didn't return, so instead of being proud that we stopped it you think about the part played. Strange way of thinking................. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673634)
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/259
This article says a lot about how the UK profited from slavery . to just quote a couple of bits : Williams's study set out the explore the impact of African slavery on British economic development, his most celebrated claim being that profits from slavery helped to fertilize the British Industrial Revolution. Although not the first to discern a connection between slavery and capital accumulation - Marx and Hobson, among others, had been there before him - Williams was perhaps the first explicitly to attribute British industrialization to the gains from enslavement of Africans in the Americas. A second, equally provocative, theme articulated by Williams involved the impact of industrialization on British attitudes and policy towards the slave trade and slavery and included the claim that, contrary to then received interpretation, it was economic self interest, not humanitarianism, that drove nineteenth-century British antislavery. In yet further chapters he focuses on the impact of Atlantic trade on British financial institutions and commercial practices and on the economic fortunes of particular British ports, notably Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool and London. I am not arguing about how we profited from slavery, we ended it. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673634)
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/259
This article says a lot about how the UK profited from slavery . to just quote a couple of bits : Williams's study set out the explore the impact of African slavery on British economic development, his most celebrated claim being that profits from slavery helped to fertilize the British Industrial Revolution. Although not the first to discern a connection between slavery and capital accumulation - Marx and Hobson, among others, had been there before him - Williams was perhaps the first explicitly to attribute British industrialization to the gains from enslavement of Africans in the Americas. A second, equally provocative, theme articulated by Williams involved the impact of industrialization on British attitudes and policy towards the slave trade and slavery and included the claim that, contrary to then received interpretation, it was economic self interest, not humanitarianism, that drove nineteenth-century British antislavery. In yet further chapters he focuses on the impact of Atlantic trade on British financial institutions and commercial practices and on the economic fortunes of particular British ports, notably Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool and London. If you are that bothered maybe surrender your passport and take up citizenship in some perfect country (good luck with that). |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10673639)
Awesome copy and paste......
I am not arguing about how we profited from slavery, we ended it. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673643)
cheers . I liked it .
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
(Post 10673641)
You're a bundle of joy. It's St Georges day, something to celebrate.
If you are that bothered maybe surrender your passport and take up citizenship in some perfect country (good luck with that). |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
You live in Saudi, don't you?
Didn't Saudi only officially abolish slavery in the 1960s? Wiki states 1962 and till then there was an estimated 300,000 slaves in KSA. Talk about living in Saudi and criticising Britain....
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673643)
cheers . I liked it .
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Ethos83
(Post 10673647)
You live in Saudi, don't you?
Didn't Saudi only officially abolish slavery in the 1960s? Wiki states 1962 and till then there was an estimated 300,000 slaves in KSA. Talk about living in Saudi and criticising Britain.... |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10673644)
So, If you are so against slavery how is it living in Saudi?
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Ethos83
(Post 10673647)
You live in Saudi, don't you?
Didn't Saudi only officially abolish slavery in the 1960s? Wiki states 1962 and till then there was an estimated 300,000 slaves in KSA. Talk about living in Saudi and criticising Britain.... |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673649)
It's okay . I am not a slave .
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Ethos83
(Post 10673647)
You live in Saudi, don't you?
Didn't Saudi only officially abolish slavery in the 1960s? Wiki states 1962 and till then there was an estimated 300,000 slaves in KSA. Talk about living in Saudi and criticising Britain.... |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10673652)
Though you are happy to take a wage from people that still use modern day slaves. Not hypocritical?
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10673645)
I'm not that bothered , but I won't be celebrating either . This is a public forum and I'm just stating my POV.
If you are bothered enough to argue and admit that you'll focus on the negatives of England, then why not surrender your passport and apply for nationality of a nation you deem good enough? Incidentally, if you were 'lucky' enough to be born somewhere else, where would you prefer? |
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