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lionheart Apr 26th 2009 12:50 pm

Somali Pirates
 
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html

Confucius Apr 26th 2009 1:08 pm

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 7515600)
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html

Too late for apologizing to Shadya...You married her...That damage is irreperable...

shiva Apr 26th 2009 1:11 pm

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 7515639)
Too late for apologizing to Shadya...You married her...That damage is irreperable...

:rofl:

Blue Cat Apr 26th 2009 1:11 pm

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 7515639)
Too late for apologizing to Shadya...You married her...That damage is irreperable...

:eek:

Spugsy Apr 26th 2009 6:12 pm

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 7515600)
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html

what you need is some serious hardware, rockwets launchers etc - when they arrive, just blow the ****ers up.

I mean, isn't it that simple?

commander Apr 27th 2009 2:23 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 
I have a lot of friends working down there now with the Navy and other organisations. Some of the stories I'm getting told are quite hilarious. Especially the indian navy almost causing the pirates to panic and shoot the ships captain. The shermans and the brits were hanging off 'negotiating' through VHF when the indians sailed right on past and started the 'shot across the bow' procedure..the captain (an indian, hence the Indian Navy's rush to assist-national pride or summit) had to scream on the VHF to tell them to piss off before they get him killed..

Classic..

lionheart Apr 27th 2009 6:24 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by commander (Post 7517355)
I have a lot of friends working down there now with the Navy and other organisations. Some of the stories I'm getting told are quite hilarious. Especially the indian navy almost causing the pirates to panic and shoot the ships captain. The shermans and the brits were hanging off 'negotiating' through VHF when the indians sailed right on past and started the 'shot across the bow' procedure..the captain (an indian, hence the Indian Navy's rush to assist-national pride or summit) had to scream on the VHF to tell them to piss off before they get him killed..

Classic..

So are you suggesting negotiation or force? Its not very clear from your story. What is your position, Mr.Commander?

commander Apr 27th 2009 6:27 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 
Always negotiate...

Then Force, but only as a last resort.

Always...

And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also

shiva Apr 27th 2009 7:36 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by commander (Post 7517800)
Always negotiate...

Then Force, but only as a last resort.

Always...

And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also

let em have some of this lot,



oh and i'm fairly certain that the only long term solution is to intercede in somalia, kick the shit out of the warlords and set up a government, until that happens piracy is a very viable option for revenue generation for the warlords

Spugsy Apr 27th 2009 7:51 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 7517905)
let em have some of this lot,



oh and i'm fairly certain that the only long term solution is to intercede in somalia, kick the shit out of the warlords and set up a government, until that happens piracy is a very viable option for revenue generation for the warlords

how about 'let it slip' that a cargo ship is coming through that has a billion dollars worth of cargo on,

then when all these dudes appear in their boats steven seagal jumps out and loads of others lads armed to the teeth jump out of port holes and funnels and stuff and just blow them all up?

lionheart Apr 27th 2009 7:51 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by commander (Post 7517800)
Always negotiate...

Then Force, but only as a last resort.

Always...

And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also

But how do you negotiate with pirates? Its a contradiction in terms. Why don't the rich Arab nations, whose petroleum tankers seem to be targetted more often than any others, establish some sort of patrolling naval force off the Somali coast? Alternatively, President Spugsy has a good plan but one probably more suited to the Israeli Secret Service who seem to have expertise in that area.

shiva Apr 27th 2009 7:56 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 7517941)
But how do you negotiate with pirates? Its a contradiction in terms. Why don't the rich Arab nations, whose petroleum tankers seem to be targetted more often than any others, establish some sort of patrolling naval force off the Somali coast? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Alternatively, President Spugsy has a good plan but one probably more suited to the Israeli Secret Service who seem to have expertise in that area.


arab navy hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
patrolling hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

commander Apr 27th 2009 9:22 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 7517941)
But how do you negotiate with pirates? Its a contradiction in terms. Why don't the rich Arab nations, whose petroleum tankers seem to be targetted more often than any others, establish some sort of patrolling naval force off the Somali coast? Alternatively, President Spugsy has a good plan but one probably more suited to the Israeli Secret Service who seem to have expertise in that area.

easy, offer them an alternative... they will refuse, but it bides time and then send in the shakys to eliminate the threat.

simple really lionheart..

and your grasp of military affairs is highlighted perfectly by shiva

Spugsy Apr 27th 2009 9:25 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by commander (Post 7518131)
easy, offer them an alternative... they will refuse, but it bides time and then send in the shakys to eliminate the threat.

simple really lionheart..

and your grasp of military affairs is highlighted perfectly by shiva

so....Steven Seagal? That's a no go then mate?

lionheart Apr 27th 2009 9:25 am

Re: Somali Pirates
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 7517954)
arab navy hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
patrolling hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Less of the arrogance please, the Saudi frigates are modern and equipped with Exocet surface-to-surface missiles, the sailors being USA trained I believe.
http://xrdarabia.org/2009/02/17/saud...hases-pirates/


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