Somali Pirates
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7515600)
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Confucius
(Post 7515639)
Too late for apologizing to Shadya...You married her...That damage is irreperable...
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Confucius
(Post 7515639)
Too late for apologizing to Shadya...You married her...That damage is irreperable...
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7515600)
Great to see that people are now employing self defence when dealing with those animals. As for the daft Kenyan official (sorry Shadya) saying that weapons should not be carried on merchant ships, does he honestly believe that a loud sonic device would actually protect a cruise ship against piracy? Anyone passing through those waters needs to emply a team of fully trained and suitably armed security guards as a minimum requirement in my view.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090426...y-81f3b62.html I mean, isn't it that simple? |
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I have a lot of friends working down there now with the Navy and other organisations. Some of the stories I'm getting told are quite hilarious. Especially the indian navy almost causing the pirates to panic and shoot the ships captain. The shermans and the brits were hanging off 'negotiating' through VHF when the indians sailed right on past and started the 'shot across the bow' procedure..the captain (an indian, hence the Indian Navy's rush to assist-national pride or summit) had to scream on the VHF to tell them to piss off before they get him killed..
Classic.. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7517355)
I have a lot of friends working down there now with the Navy and other organisations. Some of the stories I'm getting told are quite hilarious. Especially the indian navy almost causing the pirates to panic and shoot the ships captain. The shermans and the brits were hanging off 'negotiating' through VHF when the indians sailed right on past and started the 'shot across the bow' procedure..the captain (an indian, hence the Indian Navy's rush to assist-national pride or summit) had to scream on the VHF to tell them to piss off before they get him killed..
Classic.. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Always negotiate...
Then Force, but only as a last resort. Always... And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7517800)
Always negotiate...
Then Force, but only as a last resort. Always... And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also oh and i'm fairly certain that the only long term solution is to intercede in somalia, kick the shit out of the warlords and set up a government, until that happens piracy is a very viable option for revenue generation for the warlords |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 7517905)
let em have some of this lot,
oh and i'm fairly certain that the only long term solution is to intercede in somalia, kick the shit out of the warlords and set up a government, until that happens piracy is a very viable option for revenue generation for the warlords then when all these dudes appear in their boats steven seagal jumps out and loads of others lads armed to the teeth jump out of port holes and funnels and stuff and just blow them all up? |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7517800)
Always negotiate...
Then Force, but only as a last resort. Always... And when force is required, don't let the friggin tommohawk chuckers anywhere near the place...leave it to us or the yanks...if you don't want innocents killed, rule the yanks out also |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7517941)
But how do you negotiate with pirates? Its a contradiction in terms. Why don't the rich Arab nations, whose petroleum tankers seem to be targetted more often than any others, establish some sort of patrolling naval force off the Somali coast? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Alternatively, President Spugsy has a good plan but one probably more suited to the Israeli Secret Service who seem to have expertise in that area.
arab navy hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha patrolling hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7517941)
But how do you negotiate with pirates? Its a contradiction in terms. Why don't the rich Arab nations, whose petroleum tankers seem to be targetted more often than any others, establish some sort of patrolling naval force off the Somali coast? Alternatively, President Spugsy has a good plan but one probably more suited to the Israeli Secret Service who seem to have expertise in that area.
simple really lionheart.. and your grasp of military affairs is highlighted perfectly by shiva |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7518131)
easy, offer them an alternative... they will refuse, but it bides time and then send in the shakys to eliminate the threat.
simple really lionheart.. and your grasp of military affairs is highlighted perfectly by shiva |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 7517954)
arab navy hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
patrolling hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha http://xrdarabia.org/2009/02/17/saud...hases-pirates/ |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518140)
Less of the arrogance please, the Saudi frigates are modern and equipped with Exocet surface-to-surface missiles, the sailors being USA trained I believe.
http://xrdarabia.org/2009/02/17/saud...hases-pirates/ so this is a qualified, established, educated hahahahahahahahahaha wise up old man... |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7518147)
hahahahahahahah i yes me, have trained the saudi navy...
so this is a qualified, established, educated hahahahahahahahahaha wise up old man... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090427...e-6323e80.html |
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considering I have mates who like commander actually have and continue to train military forces in the Middle east, I wouldnt call it arrogance but in fact an informed opinion based on fact.
The overwhelming feeling of these people is that if the shit hits the fan, half of them will run, 25% will do **** all, 12% will kill each other and 12% wont have turned up for work that day anyway and maybe 1% will actually do what they are trained to do, maybe seriously you'd be better off with your granny armed with her zimmer than ANY middle east armed service personel. all the gear and no ****ing idea is the maxim here. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518164)
And what do you say about this, you arrogant ****?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090427...e-6323e80.html having spent around 8 years working there, its not exactly surprising.. and im not arrogant, i just deal in facts..where as you obviously have not a clue.. what you read there is the tip of the iceberg.. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7518237)
having spent around 8 years working there, its not exactly surprising..
and im not arrogant, i just deal in facts..where as you obviously have not a clue.. what you read there is the tip of the iceberg.. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Anyone claiming to deal only in facts is clearly arrogant so I rest my case. if you trained the Saudi Royal Navy personally, why aren't you sticking up for them? surely even they have enough fire power to deter a couple dozen pirates? LH, stick to what you know which is clearly dropping your keys in the fruitbowl at you and slimshady's swingers parties... |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7518605)
LH, stick to what you know which is clearly dropping your keys in the fruitbowl at you and slimshady's swingers parties...
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518710)
Having a university degree in International Relations specialising in Strategic Studies and Foreign Policy Analysis, I studied the Middle East crisis for several years and spent a considerable amount of time in Israel to complete my thesis, I do know something about the subject in hand. Obviously I am not as clever as you, but please don't assume you know everything. As for your fruit bowl remark, that is pathetic.
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518710)
Having a university degree in International Relations specialising in Strategic Studies and Foreign Policy Analysis, I studied the Middle East crisis for several years and spent a considerable amount of time in Israel to complete my thesis, I do know something about the subject in hand. Obviously I am not as clever as you, but please don't assume you know everything. As for your fruit bowl remark, that is pathetic.
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 7518761)
you should ask for your money back
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518860)
It didn't cost me anything except hard work, moron.
In case you missed it, they arent |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7517796)
So are you suggesting negotiation or force? Its not very clear from your story. What is your position, Mr.Commander?
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Re: Somali Pirates
[QUOTE=lionheart;7518710]Having a university degree in International Relations specialising in Strategic Studies and Foreign Policy Analysis, I studied the Middle East crisis for several years .....................
Must come in useful right enough as a Loss Adjuster sorting out ppl's insurance claims! |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 7518710)
Having a university degree in International Relations specialising in Strategic Studies and Foreign Policy Analysis, I studied the Middle East crisis for several years and spent a considerable amount of time in Israel to complete my thesis, I do know something about the subject in hand. Obviously I am not as clever as you, but please don't assume you know everything. As for your fruit bowl remark, that is pathetic.
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Spugsy
(Post 7516317)
what you need is some serious hardware, rockwets launchers etc - when they arrive, just blow the ****ers up.
I mean, isn't it that simple? |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by commander
(Post 7518605)
Quite an arrogant statement in itself old timer
because we provided them with hardware and then attempted to train them in how to use them. You cant polish a turd however as long as they dont fire back and it doesnt interfere with their internal butt-hole engineering or call to prayer LH, stick to what you know which is clearly dropping your keys in the fruitbowl at you and slimshady's swingers parties... Polishing a turd was the polite way of putting how he felt.... |
Re: Somali Pirates
Have a friend who trains police in the ME on disposal. Tells some ****ing great stories. Also said the biggest threat to the ME is not external, it's the locals finding live munitions and trying to defuse, ****ing nutters!
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Roadking
(Post 7519887)
Have a friend who trains police in the ME on disposal. Tells some ****ing great stories. Also said the biggest threat to the ME is not external, it's the locals finding live munitions and trying to defuse, ****ing nutters!
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Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 7519910)
Sounds a bit like the Scottish loyalists
He told me that the Queen loves marzipan, honest!!!! |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 7520238)
I was posting that envelope for mate, officer, honest...
He told me that the Queen loves marzipan, honest!!!! They had stashed the marzipan and when they went to recover couldn't remember where it was exactly.All searching with the box of fully lighted Swan Vestas............. |
Re: Somali Pirates
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 7520274)
Summit like that.....
They had stashed the marzipan and when they went to recover couldn't remember where it was exactly.All searching with the box of fully lighted Swan Vestas............. |
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