so how and why...
Feb 14th 2010, 3:41 am
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so how and why...
...did our ideas of what is acceptable and what isn't change...
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
Feb 14th 2010, 3:49 am
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Re: so how and why...
...did our ideas of what is acceptable and what isn't change...
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
Feb 14th 2010, 3:51 am
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Re: so how and why...
lots of people still like it, violent movies are still popular and I think (not based on anything of course) that there are 'straight' people that are turned on by watching or fantasizing about gay sex...
not sure why it's been regulated though...guess you'd have to have some knowledge of history to answer that question...
not sure why it's been regulated though...guess you'd have to have some knowledge of history to answer that question...
Feb 14th 2010, 3:52 am
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Re: so how and why...
MM, xx
Feb 14th 2010, 3:52 am
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Re: so how and why...
...did our ideas of what is acceptable and what isn't change...
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
i'm watching spartacus at the moment (err...i may have mentioned it, lol) and people used to go and watch the gladiators fight it out to the death...there was also an underworld of fighting in the pits, where there were no rules, it was literally fight as dirty as you can to kill your opponent...people loved it and the more gruesome it was, the better...
at that time, sex was also very liberal, as was homosexuality...
so...when did we decide this was all wrong...? and why did we...? would genuinely be interested to know...
MM, xx
Feb 14th 2010, 3:53 am
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Re: so how and why...
Go to Thailand, all you request is available over there 
Feb 14th 2010, 3:53 am
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Re: so how and why...
lots of people still like it, violent movies are still popular and I think (not based on anything of course) that there are 'straight' people that are turned on by watching or fantasizing about gay sex...
not sure why it's been regulated though...guess you'd have to have some knowledge of history to answer that question...
not sure why it's been regulated though...guess you'd have to have some knowledge of history to answer that question...
MM, xx
Feb 14th 2010, 3:54 am
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Re: so how and why...
maybe you're right, it is just the same now, just a bit more hidden...
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Feb 14th 2010, 3:55 am
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hmmmm...nice
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Re: so how and why...
it's still a nice outing on a Friday in Saudi...maybe they are more in touch with their inner selfs, lol...
Feb 14th 2010, 3:57 am
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Re: so how and why...
er, don't believe everything you see on the telly!
Re: The Games - life was cheap, death was common (childbirth, child mortality, constant war, low lifespan, so most people would die "in their prime") and courage was a virtue. Also even the professional gladiators were slaves and so their lives were utterly disposable. Some - the successful and "not dead" ones - went on to buy their freedom, but that's it. They could become famous and even praised/worshipped, but even that was more like the praise you'd ascribe to a work of art - an object... or footballers.
As to things being liberal, er, maybe not. This was a time when married Greek women were not actually allowed out of their homes apart from on one feast-day per year. Roman matrons also had to appear virtuous and were utterly dominated by the Pater Familias, whose word was law. Homosexuality and adultery may have been rife in Ancient Rome, but woe betide anyone who brought shame on their family.
Re: The Games - life was cheap, death was common (childbirth, child mortality, constant war, low lifespan, so most people would die "in their prime") and courage was a virtue. Also even the professional gladiators were slaves and so their lives were utterly disposable. Some - the successful and "not dead" ones - went on to buy their freedom, but that's it. They could become famous and even praised/worshipped, but even that was more like the praise you'd ascribe to a work of art - an object... or footballers.
As to things being liberal, er, maybe not. This was a time when married Greek women were not actually allowed out of their homes apart from on one feast-day per year. Roman matrons also had to appear virtuous and were utterly dominated by the Pater Familias, whose word was law. Homosexuality and adultery may have been rife in Ancient Rome, but woe betide anyone who brought shame on their family.
Feb 14th 2010, 4:02 am
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Re: so how and why...
er, don't believe everything you see on the telly!
Re: The Games - life was cheap, death was common (childbirth, child mortality, constant war, low lifespan, so most people would die "in their prime") and courage was a virtue. Also even the professional gladiators were slaves and so their lives were utterly disposable. Some - the successful and "not dead" ones - went on to buy their freedom, but that's it. They could become famous and even praised/worshipped, but even that was more like the praise you'd ascribe to a work of art - an object... or footballers.
As to things being liberal, er, maybe not. This was a time when married Greek women were not actually allowed out of their homes apart from on one feast-day per year. Roman matrons also had to appear virtuous and were utterly dominated by the Pater Familias, whose word was law. Homosexuality and adultery may have been rife in Ancient Rome, but woe betide anyone who brought shame on their family.
Re: The Games - life was cheap, death was common (childbirth, child mortality, constant war, low lifespan, so most people would die "in their prime") and courage was a virtue. Also even the professional gladiators were slaves and so their lives were utterly disposable. Some - the successful and "not dead" ones - went on to buy their freedom, but that's it. They could become famous and even praised/worshipped, but even that was more like the praise you'd ascribe to a work of art - an object... or footballers.
As to things being liberal, er, maybe not. This was a time when married Greek women were not actually allowed out of their homes apart from on one feast-day per year. Roman matrons also had to appear virtuous and were utterly dominated by the Pater Familias, whose word was law. Homosexuality and adultery may have been rife in Ancient Rome, but woe betide anyone who brought shame on their family.
-Thailand for fighting with illegal killing and all the sex you want
- Saudi for legal killing without fighting and women are granted the same privileges as in acient rome.
Feb 14th 2010, 4:04 am
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Re: so how and why...
I'd go for Thailand - nicer climate.... and booze. They had booze in ancient Rome.
