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scrubbedexpat141 Feb 5th 2018 9:07 pm

Six Nations
 
This might appeal to some of you more and hopefully won't end in handbags.

Anyone making it to any games?
Any predictions after round one?

I'm trying to find a way to get to England v Wales on Saturday as I'm back in the UK with work but means negotiating not seeing Mummy and Granny which will be borderline impossible. We'll see.

I still think England will win it, probably not a grand slam and will be tight but all depends on which squads can have the fewest injuries, as always.

jam25mack Feb 5th 2018 9:11 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
Pish, bollox and the like. I only like American hand egg grappling....

jam25mack Feb 5th 2018 9:18 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
England winners for me despite all the chat and veiled flirting..... Scotland seems like they have a lot to do especially as the Italians are no longer the guaranteed free points they once were. so those two battling it out for the wooden spoon leaving the Irish, Taffs and Frogs to piss about in the middle.

England are at home to Wales next and if they get a win it will allow them to kick on a bit.

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 5th 2018 9:26 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12435868)
England winners for me despite all the chat and veiled flirting..... Scotland seems like they have a lot to do especially as the Italians are no longer the guaranteed free points they once were. so those two battling it out for the wooden spoon leaving the Irish, Taffs and Frogs to piss about in the middle.

England are at home to Wales next and if they get a win it will allow them to kick on a bit.

Scotland shouldn't be whipping boys, I was surprised at how clinical Wales were and it was a shame Scotland couldn't get more points on the board.

Italy are still the whipping boys, even with Conor O'Shea (the legend), they're still shit.

weasel decentral Feb 5th 2018 9:27 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
Ireland for the overall win, though not a grand slam. Last game I think is England at Twickenham, which could be the decider.

This weekend, Ireland to hammer Italy, Wales to lose narrowly to England and France to lose to Scotland.

NorthernLad Feb 5th 2018 9:27 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12435863)
This might appeal to some of you more and hopefully won't end in handbags.

Anyone making it to any games?
Any predictions after round one?

Having to settle for watching all the games in Barrel 12.
Saturday will be an interesting game...before last week there was a lot of talk of the injury list to both England and Wales, look how that turned out.

A bit predictable, but I think it will come down to England v Ireland on the last day. And as much it pains me to say it, I think Ireland will edge it.

Garbatellamike Feb 5th 2018 9:47 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12435863)
This might appeal to some of you more and hopefully won't end in handbags.

Anyone making it to any games?
Any predictions after round one?

I'm trying to find a way to get to England v Wales on Saturday as I'm back in the UK with work but means negotiating not seeing Mummy and Granny which will be borderline impossible. We'll see.

I still think England will win it, probably not a grand slam and will be tight but all depends on which squads can have the fewest injuries, as always.

I'm going to Eng vs France in Paris.

Prediction: going to be between Ireland, England and Wales. Wales look much better without Biggar and Warburton faster pace and creativity so my slight favourites unless Biggar comes back in which case Eng favourites as Ire game is at Twickers.

Millhouse Feb 5th 2018 9:52 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
American football for girls

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 5th 2018 10:41 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12435875)
Ireland for the overall win, though not a grand slam. Last game I think is England at Twickenham, which could be the decider.

This weekend, Ireland to hammer Italy, Wales to lose narrowly to England and France to lose to Scotland.

Ireland -33 points, Wales +12 points and Scotland to win (any score) = 4.1/1

Worth a flutter. :thumbup:


Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12435889)
I'm going to Eng vs France in Paris.

Prediction: going to be between Ireland, England and Wales. Wales look much better without Biggar and Warburton faster pace and creativity so my slight favourites unless Biggar comes back in which case Eng favourites as Ire game is at Twickers.

Nice :thumbup:

Ireland and Wales at Twickenham might be the difference that means England sneak a grand slam though...


Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12435890)
American football for girls

But what makes it worthwhile?

Garbatellamike Feb 5th 2018 10:56 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12435913)

Ireland and Wales at Twickenham might be the difference that means England sneak a grand slam though...

not sure there will be a grand slam but having the other 2 of the top 3 at home is defo an advantage to England

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 5th 2018 11:07 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12435919)
not sure there will be a grand slam but having the other 2 of the top 3 at home is defo an advantage to England

No Grand Slam Winner 11/10
England 9/4
Ireland 11/4
Wales 20/1

Garbatellamike Feb 6th 2018 1:06 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12435928)
No Grand Slam Winner 11/10
England 9/4
Ireland 11/4
Wales 20/1

good odds on Wales..........

scot47 Feb 6th 2018 3:49 am

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Why is there no thread on Women's Beach Volleyball ?

Garbatellamike Feb 6th 2018 4:02 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12436184)
Why is there no thread on Women's Beach Volleyball ?

If you want one, start one, otherwise :focus:

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 6th 2018 3:58 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12436002)
good odds on Wales..........

True. Surprising really, injuries aside, they're not a bad side still. Scotland result flattered them though.

UKMS Feb 6th 2018 5:40 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
I have a ticket for Saturday but cant make it back, so my son is delighted to be taking his Welsh mate. I'm going back the following weekend to see Wasps :)

Scotland's woeful performance made Wales look much better than they are. I'm confident of an England win by at least 7 (although I said that sitting at Twickenham for the RWC ! )

As for the title I really don't think anyone will touch England, it may well come down to the final game if Ireland don't slip up but England will be hard to beat at home, assuming we don't get plagued with injuries.

Garbatellamike Feb 6th 2018 9:41 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12436583)
True. Surprising really, injuries aside, they're not a bad side still. Scotland result flattered them though.

yeah but that back line without Biggar, Roberts and Davies looks faster, more skillful and much much more creative.. Wales much more dangerous than last 4 years as not so predictable.

weasel decentral Feb 11th 2018 11:19 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12435875)
This weekend, Ireland to hammer Italy, Wales to lose narrowly to England and France to lose to Scotland.

Pat on the back for me ;)

Next match day France wallop Italy, Scotland lose to England and Ireland wallop Wales.

littlejimmy Feb 11th 2018 11:25 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12440163)
Pat on the back for me ;)

Next match day France wallop Italy, Scotland lose to England and Ireland wallop Wales.

Giz the lotto numbers... ;)

Garbatellamike Feb 12th 2018 2:53 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12440163)
Pat on the back for me ;)

Next match day France wallop Italy, Scotland lose to England and Ireland wallop Wales.

good call last week but I think Ireland Wales will be tight

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 12th 2018 2:59 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12440163)
Pat on the back for me ;)

Next match day France wallop Italy, Scotland lose to England and Ireland wallop Wales.

My bet was perfect.

Ireland -33 points, Wales +12 points and Scotland to win (any score) = 4.1/1

weasel decentral Feb 12th 2018 2:32 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12440365)
good call last week but I think Ireland Wales will be tight

I was watching the Wales England game and I think the Irish pack is far ahead of Wales, especially when you include the strength on the bench around the 60 minute mark. Though as soon as I get confident about Ireland is when we lose!

Garbatellamike Feb 12th 2018 8:55 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12440793)
I was watching the Wales England game and I think the Irish pack is far ahead of Wales, especially when you include the strength on the bench around the 60 minute mark. Though as soon as I get confident about Ireland is when we lose!

yeah Ireland will have edge in tight 5 for sure and like England a massive quality difference in the second row. Loose forwards pretty even. Other advantage for Ireland is at 10 otherwise 3/4 and FB even. Wales maybe slightly fitter. I reckon 5 points in it.

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 12th 2018 10:51 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12440793)
I was watching the Wales England game and I think the Irish pack is far ahead of Wales, especially when you include the strength on the bench around the 60 minute mark. Though as soon as I get confident about Ireland is when we lose!

Possibly.

Could argue this pack is a very good group: Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Simmonds.
Marler is back now too, with Jamie George and Kruis the types we can bring off the bench. It's not shoddy even if not terrifying.

England training in scrums against the Georgians shows the intent to not get beaten up by anyone.

Will be an interesting contest though.


Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12440930)
yeah Ireland will have edge in tight 5 for sure and like England a massive quality difference in the second row. Loose forwards pretty even. Other advantage for Ireland is at 10 otherwise 3/4 and FB even. Wales maybe slightly fitter. I reckon 5 points in it.

I'm not a fan of Sexton, I don't think he's as good as people say he is. I think he's definitely capable of being that good but not regularly enough. When he's on fire it's impressive to watch but I think it's too far between standout performances.....that being said, he likes bigger games so against Wales he could cause some problems.

Garbatellamike Feb 13th 2018 2:53 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12441001)
Possibly.

Could argue this pack is a very good group: Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Simmonds.
Marler is back now too, with Jamie George and Kruis the types we can bring off the bench. It's not shoddy even if not terrifying.

England training in scrums against the Georgians shows the intent to not get beaten up by anyone.

Will be an interesting contest though.



I'm not a fan of Sexton, I don't think he's as good as people say he is. I think he's definitely capable of being that good but not regularly enough. When he's on fire it's impressive to watch but I think it's too far between standout performances.....that being said, he likes bigger games so against Wales he could cause some problems.

I'd like to see George start and bring in Hughes at 8 (till Billy's fit) and try Simmonds at open side.

Sexton vs Biggar or Patchell? In realative terms he's miles ahead whilst he may not be an all time great he's better by a distance.

I'd also like to see Watson at full back with Daly and May on the wings for a pacy back 3.

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 13th 2018 3:09 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12441193)
I'd like to see George start and bring in Hughes at 8 (till Billy's fit) and try Simmonds at open side.

Sexton vs Biggar or Patchell? In realative terms he's miles ahead whilst he may not be an all time great he's better by a distance.

I'd also like to see Watson at full back with Daly and May on the wings for a pacy back 3.

Interesting about George, I think I'd like to see Marler back in the front row.

Sexton's definitely better than the others, no doubt.

Disagree on changing 15. Brown is one of the best full backs in the world, if not the best and has been at that sort of top level for a few years. Daly and May instead of Watson and one of them might be interesting.

Garbatellamike Feb 13th 2018 4:09 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12441206)
Interesting about George, I think I'd like to see Marler back in the front row.

Sexton's definitely better than the others, no doubt.

Disagree on changing 15. Brown is one of the best full backs in the world, if not the best and has been at that sort of top level for a few years. Daly and May instead of Watson and one of them might be interesting.

don't disagree on Brown but think that against weaker sides where you don't need his defensive qualities it would be interesting to play the 3 speedsters with Watson having the freedom to join the line from full back. Add JJ as well and that's quick.

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 13th 2018 4:21 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12441254)
don't disagree on Brown but think that against weaker sides where you don't need his defensive qualities it would be interesting to play the 3 speedsters with Watson having the freedom to join the line from full back. Add JJ as well and that's quick.

As long as Nowell's playing time is limited I'll support it. :thumbup:

weasel decentral Feb 25th 2018 1:44 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12440930)
yeah Ireland will have edge in tight 5 for sure and like England a massive quality difference in the second row. Loose forwards pretty even. Other advantage for Ireland is at 10 otherwise 3/4 and FB even. Wales maybe slightly fitter. I reckon 5 points in it.

Closer than I expected, due to some really poor out wide defence from Ireland, however what a great game. Had it all, including some terrible kicking from Sexton but on the other hand he really tore the Welsh backs apart.

Big surprise for Scotland, who looked in a different league to England. Farrell seemed anonymous for most of the game and Mike Brown got caught for pace and position too many times. Similarly to Wales the speedy wingers made it look too easy.

Garbatellamike Feb 26th 2018 2:56 am

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12450949)
Closer than I expected, due to some really poor out wide defence from Ireland, however what a great game. Had it all, including some terrible kicking from Sexton but on the other hand he really tore the Welsh backs apart.

Big surprise for Scotland, who looked in a different league to England. Farrell seemed anonymous for most of the game and Mike Brown got caught for pace and position too many times. Similarly to Wales the speedy wingers made it look too easy.

If Sexton had bought his kicking boots there would have been a 20 point differential.

weasel decentral Mar 11th 2018 4:42 pm

Re: Six Nations
 
Of course I have to bump this ;)

Good win again for Ireland helped by some really terrible finishing from Scotland, should have been much closer.

Anyhow set up for a great Paddy's day game with England for the grand slam. Dare to dream :lol:

scrubbedexpat141 Mar 12th 2018 6:28 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12460662)
Anyhow set up for a great Paddy's day game with England for the grand slam. Dare to dream :lol:

I've never wanted to win a game more.

IKnowNothing Mar 12th 2018 6:49 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12461397)
I've never wanted to win a game more.

(Yes I know it's the wrong game but)...

Your lot were total rubbish at The Cathedral on the Hill on Saturday, if anything we should have but 5+ past you, no surprise you're looking for (yet another) manager now. Your players just couldn't be bothered.

Do you think you'll survive the drop? I hope you do, and WHU go down with Stoke and WBA.

scrubbedexpat141 Mar 12th 2018 7:00 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by IKnowNothing (Post 12461411)
(Yes I know it's the wrong game but)...

Your lot were total rubbish at The Cathedral on the Hill on Saturday, if anything we should have but 5+ past you, no surprise you're looking for (yet another) manager now. Your players just couldn't be bothered.

Do you think you'll survive the drop? I hope you do, and WHU go down with Stoke and WBA.

I didn't get a chance to see it but saw words like abysmal and disgraceful being thrown around. He's needed the sack for months now...praying we get someone good in who gives that new-manager-bounce and we stay up.

WHU should just be banned from football. Awful club, awful fans, just all awful.
I bet on WBA, Stoke and Huddersfield to go down at 7/1.

littlejimmy Mar 12th 2018 7:07 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12461420)
WHU should just be banned from football. Awful club, awful fans, just all awful.

Spot on. They have an extraordinary sense of entitlement and get protection from the likes of Trevor Brooking whenever they do anything bad, like with Carlos Tevez. Other clubs would have had points deducted. They're nearly as bad as Leeds.

IKnowNothing Mar 12th 2018 7:31 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 12461426)
Spot on. They have an extraordinary sense of entitlement and get protection from the likes of Trevor Brooking whenever they do anything bad, like with Carlos Tevez. Other clubs would have had points deducted. They're nearly as bad as Leeds.

The owners are asset stripping the club, sold the land to a property developer they're linked with, got a stupidly cheap price on the London stadium (I wonder how much Khan trousered on that deal).

They could easily go the way of rangers, but hey, the owners made a shed load of cash.

Despicable.

weasel decentral Mar 12th 2018 7:43 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12461397)
I've never wanted to win a game more.

Ha, yes I can imagine having the championship trophy handed over to Ireland at Twickenham is a bit upsetting for the English fans.

Anyhow I'm hoping primarily for a good game of rugby, the added spur of denying a grand slam should up the English performance.

scrubbedexpat141 Mar 12th 2018 9:50 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 12461456)
Ha, yes I can imagine having the championship trophy handed over to Ireland at Twickenham is a bit upsetting for the English fans.

Anyhow I'm hoping primarily for a good game of rugby, the added spur of denying a grand slam should up the English performance.

That bit doesn't bother me greatly. It's the opportunity to upset/deny one of the ABE-ers. We rarely get that treat.

If this England squad can't get up for it I'll be gutted. We've got quite robotic in the way we seem to have been beating some teams very easily in previous tests (before this 6N) and just carry on without the fight that rugby needs to be built on. Like a bunch of gym-monkey-robots who wouldn't break a grape in a fruit fight.

We'll see. Eddie Jones has the character to remind them how much they should leave on the field each test.

Garbatellamike Mar 12th 2018 11:03 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12461526)
That bit doesn't bother me greatly. It's the opportunity to upset/deny one of the ABE-ers. We rarely get that treat.

If this England squad can't get up for it I'll be gutted. We've got quite robotic in the way we seem to have been beating some teams very easily in previous tests (before this 6N) and just carry on without the fight that rugby needs to be built on. Like a bunch of gym-monkey-robots who wouldn't break a grape in a fruit fight.

We'll see. Eddie Jones has the character to remind them how much they should leave on the field each test.

just back from Paris and think you nailed it there Scamp

Miss Ann Thrope Mar 12th 2018 11:06 pm

Re: Six Nations
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12461526)
That bit doesn't bother me greatly. It's the opportunity to upset/deny one of the ABE-ers. We rarely get that treat.

If this England squad can't get up for it I'll be gutted. We've got quite robotic in the way we seem to have been beating some teams very easily in previous tests (before this 6N) and just carry on without the fight that rugby needs to be built on. Like a bunch of gym-monkey-robots who wouldn't break a grape in a fruit fight.

We'll see. Eddie Jones has the character to remind them how much they should leave on the field each test.

You're just sickened because we did it to you lot. Twice. I expect England to be as up for this as the arse were for the League cup...

And I'm sure I am not the only Irishman who enjoyed the second half of France-England even more than any of Ireland's matches this year.


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