scrubbedexpat141

You're probably right. If you aren't they're in now. If you are, they're in twice, which still isn't enough.

I'm gonna chuck another one like that in, in case it isn't already, but cancer. In all it's forms.

scrubbedexpat141

Work.

As a whole, on the whole, in the hole.

Millhouse

What's happened, paper jam again?

scrubbedexpat141

Yeah.
Then when I fixed it I noticed I'm surrounded by total *****.

IKnowNothing

You've just noticed? How long you been working there?

scrubbedexpat141

There are lots of very good people, but today it just seems to be a total influx of ***** into our bit of the office. Just swathes of them. Coming in, being ****ing stupid and departing.

I scratch my head at senior guys being on 2-3-4 times the money I'm on and live in this bizarre alternative world where idiots prosper.

So glad it's Ramadan hours.

Miss Ann Thrope

This is the golden future that awaits you - don't worry, the money makes it all fine...

co durham boy

Another 20 years and you'll be that guy

scrubbedexpat141

Having done this for ten years, I'm ready to sell my soul right now. Not wait....

Millhouse

You sold your soul the day you took that job on

scrubbedexpat141

Oh yeah.
Well I'm willing to sell it again, but for shit loads more.
Soon we'll know if they agree or not.

Millhouse

Charlie will be along soon to tell you that you're a bragging ****.

scrubbedexpat141

Possibly. I'll get laughed out the building when this pay review happens anyway. 'Give me lots more or I'll leave'

.....

OK then, bye.


.....shit.

weasel decentral

You have to move up, there will be a pay range to your current role which you are obviously crossing at the moment. I have a lot of talented engineers working with me who are very good at their jobs but complain about their salary, but without taking on more responsibility I can't pay them more. They will stagnate otherwise.

In short do more, get more

scrubbedexpat141

Give me more credit than that.

I took a pay cut last year on the promise of a bonus to take me over where I was. Smashed it. Tore the year apart, gave it a new bottom hole and dominated it. Took on several new projects / responsibilities, smashed them too. Hit every single target for my bonus. Appraisal finished with me being given 'at next suitable opportunity' (read: pay review time) a promotion.

Got stiffed on bonus. Got less than 50%. Earned more in 2014 than I did in 2016.

Pointed out this is bullshit. Waiting for pay review and to see what they wish to do.

There is no way on Earth I'd back out of an argument that I've not done enough to earn a sensible review.

The way I see it:

1. Give me good size raise for being a hero.
2. Give me **** all / small raise because that's what you want to pay this role....then replace me when I've found something else to move to.

I'm sort of relaxed about it, but it's dominating my world at present making it hard to concentrate and motivate myself to bust a gut....hence the increased activity on here.... it's obviously very important to me and the business has an opportunity to reward me in line with peers in different divisions / work streams. If not, it's fine, I'll be genuinely gutted because I like this firm and enjoy being part of it but I'll have to leave to continue a sensible path of growth+reward rather than being laughed at.

We'll see.
I'm on holiday from next Thursday and it's meant to be done this month, so I don't hold my breath.