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Can anyone advise typical fees charged to the employer for recruitment services? I'm thinking here of TCN and Western staff. Are quotes of 3 months salary the norm for UAE? Thanks.
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Can anyone advise typical fees charged to the employer for recruitment services? I'm thinking here of TCN and Western staff. Are quotes of 3 months salary the norm for UAE? Thanks.
For professional Western staff, I was recently quoted between 25%-30% if sucess based, or a reasonably large retainer (like 50k USD for a 250k package).

So 3 months, 25% sounds about right. It's not so bad - you can probbaly force the jinglies to pay that if you pushed them hard enough

EDIT - mine is banking (as Scamp points out below, it varies)

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Depends on the market.

In Construction you are lucky to get much North of 12-15% of basic.

A months basic / a months package seems to be what most companies feel is worth paying.
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For professional Western staff, I was recently quoted between 25%-30% if sucess based, or a reasonably large retainer (like 50k USD for a 250k package).

So 3 months, 25% sounds about right. It's not so bad - you can probbaly force the jinglies to pay that if you pushed them hard enough

EDIT - mine is banking (as Scamp points out below, it varies)
About right for a decent company.
flip flop and co will charge you 5-15% but expect a totally random bunch of cv's unrelated to the role
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For professional Western staff, I was recently quoted between 25%-30% if sucess based, or a reasonably large retainer (like 50k USD for a 250k package).

So 3 months, 25% sounds about right. It's not so bad - you can probbaly force the jinglies to pay that if you pushed them hard enough

EDIT - mine is banking (as Scamp points out below, it varies)
Actually retainer is a bit high. 20-30% of total fee as a retainer is the norm
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Actually retainer is a bit high. 20-30% of total fee as a retainer is the norm
50/250 = 20% Just saying, like. - the people who quoted me this did not work on sucess, more milestones.
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50/250 = 20% Just saying, like. - the people who quoted me this did not work on sucess, more milestones.
Full executive search at full fees for that role would be
250k salary
Fee at 33% 83,333 total fee. Payable in thirds
Retainer of 27,777
Short list fee of 27,777
Final fee +/- 27,777 depending on final package

Retainer and short list payable regardless of final success

More than that as a retainer and they are taking the piss, short list fee only payable if you accept the candidates otherwise they start again
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Full executive search at full fees for that role would be
250k salary
Fee at 33% 83,333 total fee. Payable in thirds
Retainer of 27,777
Short list fee of 27,777
Final fee +/- 27,777 depending on final package

Retainer and short list payable regardless of final success

More than that as a retainer and they are taking the piss, short list fee only payable if you accept the candidates otherwise they start again
yup that was about it.

but one offered 50k -- no sucess. i.e we pay 50k (on two milestones - basically your first two)
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yup that was about it.

but one offered 50k -- no sucess. i.e we pay 50k (on two milestones - basically your first two)
Piss take
Other option is 50-50 retainer and success
Don't touch anyone not willing to work until success otherwise you risk being hung out to dry

Most will work at 20-25% fee on thirds or one third two thirds an acceptable deal for both parties
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What happens if a candidate is recruited then leaves the company a few months later? Does the company get any of the money back?
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What happens if a candidate is recruited then leaves the company a few months later? Does the company get any of the money back?
Any good firm should offer a guarantee from 6months to a year depending on seniority. Some will offer money back most will do a free replacement
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Piss take
Other option is 50-50 retainer and success
Don't touch anyone not willing to work until success otherwise you risk being hung out to dry

Most will work at 20-25% fee on thirds or one third two thirds an acceptable deal for both parties
I didn't say we took that offer

Actually we managed to back end the final firm. We never pay more than 10% upfront (a global procurement rule) so we pushed the first third back.
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I didn't say we took that offer

Actually we managed to back end the final firm. We never pay more than 10% upfront (a global procurement rule) so we pushed the first third back.
10 is low but banking salaries are ridiculous so they'll make their money anyway
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Why would any competent employer want to fork out 30% of salary on a new recruit? Surely a simply search on-line would do the job. Recruitment agents and estate agents are both a wasteful luxury over here.
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Why would any competent employer want to fork out 30% of salary on a new recruit? Surely a simply search on-line would do the job. Recruitment agents and estate agents are both a wasteful luxury over here.
Whilst I'd like to disagree, frankly I can't.
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