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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 10676252)
There is nearly as much nonsense talked about alcohol and addiction as about God !
Go and have a look at any city or town centre in Britain (not just Scotland)of an evening at the weekend and tell me there is no problem with booze ! Ostriches with heads in sand come to my mind ! And I certainly do not come from a Muslim background ! |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Kix
(Post 10676267)
Hang on, according to the koran, everyone is born a muslim....
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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10676299)
Hold it there.. Koran did not say that!, it was a saying of the prophet of Islam. He meant that the pure nature of humans before adultration with desires is islamic.
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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10676306)
So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
(We're divorced now). |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10676306)
So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
1 You're not married (I think) 2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to) 3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state. Sorry. |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 10676320)
Treble no.
1 You're not married (I think) 2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to) 3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state. Sorry. Why do I find that funny? |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 10676320)
Treble no.
1 You're not married (I think) 2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to) 3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state. Sorry. |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10676306)
So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10676497)
Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it.
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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10676497)
in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty
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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10676497)
Quite right but that will not make a Muslim, I am afraid. Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it. This faith refuses to be treated like a pizza resturant, as there is no room in Islam for 'design your own religion' kind of approach.
I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10676497)
Quite right but that will not make a Muslim, I am afraid. Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it. This faith refuses to be treated like a pizza resturant, as there is no room in Islam for 'design your own religion' kind of approach.
I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by Kix
(Post 10676328)
Adulteration - To make impure or inferior by adding foreign substances to something.
Why do I find that funny? and Soda = bad ? |
Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10676526)
There are a few million Muslims in the gcc alone that might need to hear your explanation
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Re: Ramadan Kareem !
Originally Posted by mikewot
(Post 10676552)
Is all the stuff going on in the mosques not like the RC's, a few hail marys and our fathers and you're OK, back to square one?
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